Posted by Panos:
Posted by oohah:
U are right, he did run a team nicely...But for a New York point guard, I was never really on his bandwagon I just couldn't get over his lack of D and slow footness...Also I just hated to see him in the post for some reason..I think that's the rule change you were refering to...then there's free throws where he raised his right hand to measure the shot...then there was the teardrop...Then he started doing the X cross with the forearms..I think that was after LJ started his own...Then he started to do the airplane after he scored a basket..There wa a little shimmy dance a la 'Tione Walker...U get the idea..Can't consider him one of the all timers through....No D, lack of scoring, but great passer and ran a team with the best of them, well maybe not Magic.
There you go! The teardrop, he even has a shot known widely throughout the game. The "helicopter dance" was actually much earlier in his career, and people killed him for it, but look at the ridiculous, nasty celebrations that players have done and sometimes still do (League crackdown). His dance was just playing around, light-hearted fun compared to what we see today. (Antoine Walker stole the shimmy move from Jackson!)
He had his weaknesses, but what he did well he did as one of the best ever: passing and running an offense.
Had Riley not insisted on trading him, I think things would have gone different for both Ewing and Jackson, and their legacies would be elevated with a championship.
oohah
[Edited by - oohah on 05-11-2006 10:31 PM]
Dude, are you kidding me?! The last year Jackson was in NY
he was a fat f ck, and slow as ****e. The fans booed him
out of NY. He was a disgrace on defense, and this was a
defense oriented team.
He was. But then he got it together and had a bunch of great years in LA, Indiana and Denver. He was just another guy who had to have a big fall from grace to get his head straight and come back strong. He had one of the most phenomenal rookie years I've ever seen. It went downhill from there. You could see it in his second year he somehow got it in his head he had to be more of a scorer. Remember how many last second shots he took upon himself in his second year to take - and miss?
SO it's a real conundurm. He had to get booted our of NY when he did - but it also ended up being a big loss because the guy still had a lot of great basketball left in him that he needed to rediscover. Someplace else. Could he have rediscovered it in NY? I don't know.
Would you guys say the same scenario took place with Camby? His problems were more injuries, missed PT, whiney attitude, lack of heart when he got booted out of NY.
Now for today's question - Marbury? Personally I hope it happens and it's a big win-win. I hope he totally finds his game, his wins, his glory - someplace else. Because I don't think it's gonna happen here. I hope we find ours going in a different direction.
5/12/2006 11:13 AM