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are you confident the knicks will make helpful moves this summer?


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djsunyc
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how confident are you in the team making moves this summer that will help us?
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4949
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4/29/2006  8:06 PM
If I could give Zeke advice, I'd advise him not to make any deals, not unless two things can happen. One, if he can get a mega star or two in here, especially a center or Two, just wait and build a young steady team until the money gets under control and we are able to offer a big name free agent later on. I really feel that he is probably feeling that he needs to make quick fix deals which will never happen. But who knows what's going to happen at this point.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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rvhoss
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4/29/2006  8:08 PM
look at you validating your username.
Posted by nixluva:

Zeke is NOT going to trade the kids. Why do you think he added Francis and Jalen. It was to give himself trade chips so that he doesn't have to trade the kids he wants to keep. I really think too many of us have let the last season sway our judgement of what we have on this team. We really did have a great draft. Frye, Lee and Nate ALL CAN PLAY in this league and not just a little bit. They're going to be successful parts of this team.

Zeke has brought in Curry, Frye, Lee, Nate, Woods, Butler, Quentin and Jamal and all are 26 or younger. I don't care what the record was last year, that is a decent group of young players and they're only going to get better. Once we add a PG, Defensive Swingman, Shotblocker/rebounder and a deep threat this team will be a serious up and coming team. I don't care about the veteran issue. We have enough young players that will be ready to contribute more next year.

all kool aid all the time.
nixluva
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4/29/2006  8:09 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

I don't think we have good business men up front. I do think Isiah is a good judge of talent, but he's narrow minded and throws all of his eggs in one basket. I don't think this has changed, and I don't think they have a plan in particular to work things out. I am very nervous that this is true.

Well in the last offseason we needed a head coach and he got the best he could get. We needed size up front and he got that. We needed another big Guard and he got that. I really can't see what he did wrong before the start of the season in terms of trying to fill our needs. Now we can argue over the results once the season started, but I think he did have a plan in mind and he relied on the better virtues of the people he brought in to make it work. Unfortunately the worst came out of LB and Steph and QRich had a horrible season. James came in woefully out of shape and showed no respect or professionalism. Curry was coming off a summer of inactivity and couldn't have been expected to get it all back in just a few weeks before the season started. However we got GREAT performances from our young players. They aren't all the way there, but they showed that they can perform on this level and as they grow and improve we should see them take over.

I just don't think that Zeke has done a bad job with this roster and he's not done. He never held out this years team as a finished product so we KNEW there would be more work to do. Its only because of the wreck of a season that so many have turned sour on this team. The reality is that we still have a very talented team and with just a few key moves and the growth of our kids, we'll be a MUCH better team next year.
rvhoss
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4/29/2006  8:09 PM
absolutely...hey, who let you join this site, haven't you noticed that you can only post if you hate marbury or covet other players...basically, think and talk like larry brown?
Posted by 4949:

If I could give Zeke advice, I'd advise him not to make any deals, not unless two things can happen. One, if he can get a mega star or two in here, especially a center or Two, just wait and build a young steady team until the money gets under control and we are able to offer a big name free agent later on. I really feel that he is probably feeling that he needs to make quick fix deals which will never happen. But who knows what's going to happen at this point.

all kool aid all the time.
rvhoss
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4/29/2006  8:11 PM
hey nixluva, be careful, it's posts like this that bring islesfan out of the closet. (jokes mods, I'm feeling especially optimistic tonight )
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by Allanfan20:

I don't think we have good business men up front. I do think Isiah is a good judge of talent, but he's narrow minded and throws all of his eggs in one basket. I don't think this has changed, and I don't think they have a plan in particular to work things out. I am very nervous that this is true.

Well in the last offseason we needed a head coach and he got the best he could get. We needed size up front and he got that. We needed another big Guard and he got that. I really can't see what he did wrong before the start of the season in terms of trying to fill our needs. Now we can argue over the results once the season started, but I think he did have a plan in mind and he relied on the better virtues of the people he brought in to make it work. Unfortunately the worst came out of LB and Steph and QRich had a horrible season. James came in woefully out of shape and showed no respect or professionalism. Curry was coming off a summer of inactivity and couldn't have been expected to get it all back in just a few weeks before the season started. However we got GREAT performances from our young players. They aren't all the way there, but they showed that they can perform on this level and as they grow and improve we should see them take over.

I just don't think that Zeke has done a bad job with this roster and he's not done. He never held out this years team as a finished product so we KNEW there would be more work to do. Its only because of the wreck of a season that so many have turned sour on this team. The reality is that we still have a very talented team and with just a few key moves and the growth of our kids, we'll be a MUCH better team next year.

all kool aid all the time.
Marv
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4/29/2006  8:52 PM
Posted by eViL:

Rumor has it, if the Knicks had held onto their first round pick, Larry was planning to select Abe Vigoda.

You can build around Abe.
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