Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by WOODMANnYk:

Indy would not want Steph.. no way!! Bird is not stupid.. Not for Granger who happens to show a bit of upside to his game..

they want players that would be able to help the team win... I don't see steph doing that..

[Edited by - woodmannyk on 04-25-2006 11:41 PM]

Why is that? It seems like you're a little caught up in the hype against Steph.

Posted by McK1:

I think Granger's "leadership qualities" are a stretch - as a rookie he hasn't had the opportunity to show much.

he got substantial time when O' Neal was out at 4 and answered the bell. I don't know if you watched the game tonight but deer in headlights is the exact opposite of Granger. He squared up and knocked down a few 3's. On D he stayed up in RJ and finished the night with 2 blocks. Being a rookie doesn't cripple the effort or competitiveness especially on the defensive side.

I think you're incorrect about Indy's scoring as well. They are 23rd in the league, they could use improvement.

There scoring rank is directly attributable to the style of ball the coach wants to play. Walk it up, use the shot clock, limited possesions

Again, Marbury fills a major need there as a drive and dish option and 2nd/3rd socrer along with Peja. Jax is another complementary shooter and a 4th scorer.

Peja is more rhythm shooter than spot up. He is often in motion before he gets the ball and shoots. Having a drive and kick point guard really no pre-requisite to him getting good looks. stephen Jax on the other hand would benefit more since he likes to stand and measure.

Leadership per se is overblown regardless when you have a team that is set up to be as efficient as Indiana would be.

leadrship and efficiency on a basketball court go hand in hand. Its impossible for any offense to run efficiently be it the Suns or the Bobcats without great floor leadership.

In fact, I think Marbury works in Indiana better than Iverson.

Its proven Marbury works nowhwere in this league better than Iverson

Iverson has the habit of needing 25 shots a game - he won't get that in Indiana, not with O Neal, Peja and Jax.

yes he will. he goes back to off-guard - Jax takes a backseat to AI just off principle. O' Neal will welcome having someone who can take the pressure off him to carry a team offensively. Korver got up 500 3's last seasons. Peja knows how to move in the half-court & AI will find him

[Edited by - McK1 on 04-26-2006 12:03 AM]

Posted by McK1:

under leadrship qualities, you wouldn't rank effort and competitiveness?

They both exhibit leadership qualities. Difference between Nate and Danny is MATURITY

I agree that Danny is more of a leader - just not "a leader." Yet. Anyhow, I'd love to discuss this more but I'm too bummed out that Bibby just lost the game for Sacramento.

Posted by McK1:

under leadrship qualities, you wouldn't rank effort and competitiveness?

They both exhibit leadership qualities. Difference between Nate and Danny is MATURITY

I consider myself a leader in my field. Effort and competition is part of it. But ingenuity, resolve, level-headedness and charisma is also part of it.

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by McK1:

under leadrship qualities, you wouldn't rank effort and competitiveness?

They both exhibit leadership qualities. Difference between Nate and Danny is MATURITY

I consider myself a leader in my field. Effort and competition is part of it. But ingenuity, resolve, level-headedness and charisma is also part of it.

Out of those, Granger shas shown above average effort. Which isn't a horrible thing - but he needs to be big game situations to show all of that.