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McK1
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its been speculated on message boards that perhaps Curry in the back of his mind thinks about his heart ailment and that may affect his effort level. If this is in fact true, should at season's end Isiah do the moral and honorable thing and void the remaining years and offer a pay-out similar to what Pax was offering
yes. its his responsibility as PBO
no. if Curry wants to/feels he can play, let him play
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McK1
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4/10/2006  11:40 PM
Chicago Bulls general manager John Paxson, who decided to trade Curry after the 22-year-old center refused to take a DNA test, told SI.com that the team initially became concerned about Curry's health last October, five months before he was diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat. "It was during a conditioning drill, and Eddy complained of chest pain and lightheadedness," Paxson said. "We took him to the hospital." According to Paxson, a thorough examination failed to find a cause for Curry's symptoms.

Curry remained healthy until March 30, when he complained of chest pain and was later diagnosed to have heart arrhythmia. A leading cardiologist eventually advised the Bulls to have Curry take a DNA test that could determine if he is genetically predisposed to a potentially fatal heart condition. Doctors feared that Curry had hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, a condition that contributed to the deaths of basketball players Reggie Lewis and Hank Gathers. Curry declined to take the DNA test and was later traded with Antonio Davis to the Knics for Tim Thomas, Michael Sweetney and Jermaine Jackson. The deal became finalized after Knicks doctors cleared Curry to play. The Knicks did not ask Curry to take a DNA test.

[Edited by - McK1 on 04-10-2006 11:40 PM]

according to this the disease that contributed to the deaths of Reggie and Hank - hypertrophic cardiomyopathy - was what the Bulls wanted the tests for.

[Edited by - McK1 on 04-10-2006 11:42 PM]
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4/10/2006  11:44 PM
more on it:
Paxson says that a thorough examination at that time yielded no explanation for Curry's symptoms. The 6-foot-11, 285-pound center went on to average a career-high 16.1 points for the Bulls until March 30, when he complained of symptoms that were diagnosed as heart arrhythmia. "Eddy told our trainer that he had felt the same way two nights earlier during a game against Memphis," says Paxson.

No one realized it then, but Paxson viewed the heavily-publicized incident in March as strike two. He did not dare risk strike three.

Based on the best medical advice the Bulls say they could find, Paxson decided to bench Curry for the remainder of the season, even though Curry surely could have made a pivotal impact on Chicago's six-game loss to Washington in the first round of the playoffs.

The Bulls spent the ensuing three months investigating Curry's health. "Three years ago, Eddy told the Chicago newspapers that his mother had had a mild heart attack," Paxson says. "Later we asked him about it, and he said that no, it wasn't true. Of course, we were not able to [confirm] that kind of information."

Medical experts told Paxson that Curry needed to undergo a DNA test to show whether or not he was predisposed to hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, the same heart disease that was linked to the tragic deaths of Reggie Lewis and Hank Gathers while they were playing basketball.

"In all likelihood Eddy doesn't have it (hypertrophic cardiomyopathy)," acknowledges Paxson.

But one can understand why Paxson was so cautious about letting Curry wear a Bulls uniform again. Based on last season's scares with Curry, as well as everything he was learning about heart disease, Paxson could not bear the responsibility of permitting Curry to play so long as there was the slightest doubt that playing the game could end his life. Paxson says that he and Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf were in full agreement on this issue: A DNA test showing that Curry was predisposed to a fatal disease, in concert with the two episodes of last season, would have been enough to prohibit Curry from playing for the Bulls again.
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4/10/2006  11:52 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

What exactly is his medical condition? We know doctors cleared him to play but that's not to say he doesn't have a condition. They clear players to play on lots of conditions, like sprains and arthritic knees, doesn't mean they don't have a condition. Lets remember, his condition, whatever it is, was discovered because of light headedness and fatigue, so something was up.

I don't know but I suspect he does have a condition, takes meds and is monitored regularly.

Could that haunt his psyche? Sure. Could doctors recommend he be paced? Sure. Should he be bought out? I don't know yet, but it's not encouraging that he gets outplayed by Butler in 2nd halfs.


Blue if this scenario is anywhere near true, the IT needs to be fired immediately and Dolan banned from the NBA for ruining a franchise......

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4/10/2006  11:54 PM
There have been medical experts quoted in articles that state that the test isn't particularly useful because it can only rule in but it can not rule out.
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4/11/2006  12:10 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by BlueSeats:

What exactly is his medical condition? We know doctors cleared him to play but that's not to say he doesn't have a condition. They clear players to play on lots of conditions, like sprains and arthritic knees, doesn't mean they don't have a condition. Lets remember, his condition, whatever it is, was discovered because of light headedness and fatigue, so something was up.

I don't know but I suspect he does have a condition, takes meds and is monitored regularly.

Could that haunt his psyche? Sure. Could doctors recommend he be paced? Sure. Should he be bought out? I don't know yet, but it's not encouraging that he gets outplayed by Butler in 2nd halfs.


Blue if this scenario is anywhere near true, the IT needs to be fired immediately and Dolan banned from the NBA for ruining a franchise......

I dont think its exactly true, I think curry just had arrythmia which COULD be a symptom of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy which is what killed lewis and gathers. but isnt most of the time. anyway they tested curry when he came to NY so the risk of him actually dying should be very low. in either case Isiah should be fired, and dolan banned regardless imho

[Edited by - slimpack on 04-11-2006 12:12 AM]
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4/11/2006  12:25 AM
anything can cause an arrhythmia. just being dehydrated or super-stressed.
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4/11/2006  12:45 AM
Well, at this point I'll simply assume that the article that said Gathers and Lewis died from arrhythmia was wrong.

But I do still suspect that Eddy is being medicated and routinely monitored for his condition (and he has that "athletes heart" thing too, right?) so it's not at all inconceivable he, and the franchise, are spooked by the whole thing. And if he's feeling lightheaded, even if just from poor conditioning, what does that do to everyone's psyche?

It's a bad scene. Until this guy comes into camp fit as a fiddle he's gonna be a mess regardless of his heart condition. The problem is, will his heart condition keep him from going all out in his workouts? Is it all an uninterruptible vicious circle?
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4/11/2006  7:18 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:

Well, at this point I'll simply assume that the article that said Gathers and Lewis died from arrhythmia was wrong.

But I do still suspect that Eddy is being medicated and routinely monitored for his condition (and he has that "athletes heart" thing too, right?) so it's not at all inconceivable he, and the franchise, are spooked by the whole thing. And if he's feeling lightheaded, even if just from poor conditioning, what does that do to everyone's psyche?

It's a bad scene. Until this guy comes into camp fit as a fiddle he's gonna be a mess regardless of his heart condition. The problem is, will his heart condition keep him from going all out in his workouts? Is it all an uninterruptible vicious circle?

why a team would enable itelf to this kind of scrutiny is mind-boggling.

If Curry regresses, the questions wil be raised. Some like bonn right it off as as him being fat and lazy (just like most of his career with the Bulls). Either way its lose-lose morality-wise regardless of what his poor effort is contributable to and thats without consideration to the young player we gave up, who while here brought it even when there was little to play for or the picks.
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4/11/2006  7:27 AM
this has been Curry's first 3 years in the league. It wasnt until his contract year last year he showed anything different than what he's show this year
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4/11/2006  10:54 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:

Well, at this point I'll simply assume that the article that said Gathers and Lewis died from arrhythmia was wrong.

But I do still suspect that Eddy is being medicated and routinely monitored for his condition (and he has that "athletes heart" thing too, right?) so it's not at all inconceivable he, and the franchise, are spooked by the whole thing. And if he's feeling lightheaded, even if just from poor conditioning, what does that do to everyone's psyche?

It's a bad scene. Until this guy comes into camp fit as a fiddle he's gonna be a mess regardless of his heart condition. The problem is, will his heart condition keep him from going all out in his workouts? Is it all an uninterruptible vicious circle?

Lewis wasn't cleared to play or practice basketball, he did so against his doctors orders. I read in a medical journal that potentially everyone has heart issue. Everyone was watching Curry to see if he would drop dead on the court and it turned Jason Collier drops dead and didn't even suspect he had such problems, look at the coach who just died, they called her ailment "undetectable" As far as his low production, just blame that on his weight issue and poor conditioning. The guy has gotten bigger as the season went on. He isn't the only one, alot of this guys look alot heavier. I am not worry about Curry's heart physically, I am more worry about his second helping of mashed potatoes.
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4/11/2006  10:57 AM
Posted by fishmike:

this has been Curry's first 3 years in the league. It wasnt until his contract year last year he showed anything different than what he's show this year
I don't think he showed anything different in his contract year. He was thinner but his performance on the court was the same (with slightly inferior rebounding).
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