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fishmike
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4/10/2006  11:52 AM
Posted by misterearl:

>>Earl... this is why I have been crying about the overpaid (its not your money) DOGS that Isiah has assembled.

An unauthorized sampling of the fairly-compensated (AKC approved) purebreeds that Isiah has assembled

Frye - Doberman, loyal

Lee - labrador retriever chasing down loose rebounds

Qyntel - german shepard, guarding the opponents small forward

Nate - bulldog, what else?

Jackie Butler - saint bernard, dependable and trustworthy

Jamal Crawford - greyhound

Eddy Curry - Rhodesian ridgeback, don't get him ruffled

that's seven "dogs" who I can live with, regardless of pay stub
Earl... been through this 1000 times. Nobody has a problem with the young guys on the roster. Its the overpaid crappy ones. Can you honestly tell me that the presence of these guys this year hasnt affected the culture and the coache's ability to get his message across? They may be malcontents but they are also the most talented players in some regards. What message is sent to the young guys when the players making the most money quit on the coach and dont play/practice hard?

Cmon.. drop the tunnel vision. If we are going to turn this around we have to look at every angle, not just the ones that suit you.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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4/10/2006  1:50 PM
I'm a long way from being a true JC believer, but he's shown me enough over the last 5 games to admit I'm glad Isiah didn't do the Earl Watson or Tonny Battie trades I (and many others) wanted him to do.
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4/10/2006  1:52 PM
Earl Watson is a floor leaderand a much better orchestrator than any guard we have here.
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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4/10/2006  2:01 PM
suitbury. That one has me still laughing.
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fishmike
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4/10/2006  2:03 PM
Posted by McK1:

Earl Watson is a floor leaderand a much better orchestrator than any guard we have here.
me thinks you havent seen much of Earl Watson
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4/10/2006  2:08 PM
I watch the Sonics almost everytime they play.

knows when to shoot and when not to and he scores from outside and in the lane, gets assists, gets defensive rebounds, gets people and the ball where their suppose to be, defends.

is he a starter? no. he is aguy you can bring off the bench for 25 minutes a night and expect results from sorta like Frankie was post-Chaney.
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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4/10/2006  2:23 PM
right... good player against 2nd units. OK.. I give you that. Thats all he was w/ Memphis where I saw him extensively. He plays hard.

Give me MArcus Banks
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4/10/2006  2:32 PM
I like Banks but I'm not sold on him being a starter for a play-off team.
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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4/10/2006  2:41 PM
To call Jamal Crawford "Mr. Clutch" is like spitting in Jerry West's face.

oohah

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4/10/2006  3:40 PM
Posted by McK1:

I like Banks but I'm not sold on him being a starter for a play-off team.
Eric Snow, Haywood Workman, Charlie Ward, Avery Johnson... ok being fair those guys were parts of teams where they were role players at best. I think Banks is a top 3 defender at the PG spot, maybe even the best. Your right in that he's a erratic but I'm banking on LB helping him w/ the turnovers.

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4/10/2006  3:53 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by djsunyc:


taken from realgm, the marbury knickname list is growing. the newest one...suitbury.

from those pictures last summer . . . how about brabury?


He needs a Manzere or was it "The Bro"
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4/10/2006  4:33 PM
oohah - Jerry West is so thirty years ago. Let it go.

Besides, Bernard King was clutch.

Jamal Crawford is clutch.
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4/10/2006  4:42 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by fishmike:

Does anyone have ANY doubt we are simply better off without the fat spoiled or malcontent uber rich crybabies like Marbury, Mo Taylor, Jerome James and Jalen Rose?

taken from realgm, the marbury knickname list is growing. the newest one...suitbury.

See? We would miss Marb... er "Suitbury" if he weren't here.
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4/10/2006  4:44 PM
Posted by misterearl:

The role of the lazy veterans was to absorb the heat from the fans and the media while the kids gained experience during the season with cameo minutes.

You're a pretty funny guy.
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4/10/2006  4:50 PM
oohah - Jerry West is so thirty years ago. Let it go.

Besides, Bernard King was clutch.

Jamal Crawford is clutch.

Jerry West, Bernard King, and...Jamal Crawford? You make my point for me. You have to be a good player before you can be considered clutch. Those guys were great. Clutch is not just making a couple of game winners in meaningless games, clutch is making plays when all odds are against you and it means something, clutch is the guy who makes it happen at the end of the game when nobody else is performing in games that mean something. Bernard King made an otherwise terrible team into a playoff team to be reckoned with. Then he made the clutch plays. Jerry West was Mr. Clutch for making game winners in big games. Dennis Johnson, that's clutch. Off the top of my head there are twenty guys in the NBA I would rather have taking a game winner besides Crawford, especially because they might give you a good game more than 20% of the time.

Otherwise, let's just keep JC for the end of games. He certainly has a knack for getting a tough shot off. Sometimes they even go in.

oohah



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4/10/2006  4:50 PM
Basketball Jones - it's entertainment.

Life is way too crazy to take what should be a diversion (Knicks hoops) so serious that one is ready to spit nails.

Besides, it's a perfect 72 and sunny where I am... besides, we still have Jackie Butler, David Lee and Channing Frye to cheer for. All three are good guys.

I like good guys. Speaking of good guys -

Four in a row. Just for my boy djsunyc.

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4/10/2006  8:28 PM
Gentlemen -

There's clutch.

And then there's Jerry West.

OK?

Or as he was always referred to in my home around the dinner table . . .

JERRY F'G WEST!!!!!!
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4/10/2006  10:04 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Basketball Jones - it's entertainment.

Life is way too crazy to take what should be a diversion (Knicks hoops) so serious that one is ready to spit nails.

Besides, it's a perfect 72 and sunny where I am... besides, we still have Jackie Butler, David Lee and Channing Frye to cheer for. All three are good guys.

I like good guys. Speaking of good guys -

Four in a row. Just for my boy djsunyc.

72. Sounds good to me. To bad about the four in a row though.
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4/10/2006  10:27 PM
Marv- who was more clutch....

Jerry West or John freakin' Havlicek?

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Marv
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4/10/2006  10:28 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Marv- who was more clutch....

Jerry West or John freakin' Havlicek?

West.

Loved freakin' Hondo.

But West was the ultimate clutch player.

You agree? Disagree?
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