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tkf
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4/7/2006  1:06 PM
Posted by firefly:

mck1, the suns haven't played defense since Charles Barkley. Just because they defend better then we do doesn't make them a defensive team. It makes them the SECOND worst defensive team in the NBA. Marion blocks shots and gets seteal. But he doesn't get those man on man. its all weakside etc. Nash couldn't guard a medium sized pile of poop. Now them Mavs, I agree with you. they a re defending well this year. that's why Adrian Griffin started half the season. If he started here we'd all be having convulsions

Now here's a good one. Would Larry ignore Nash's lack of defense and be happy with his offensive game or would he show him up in the papers?


I don't agree, the suns give up a lot of points, because of their style of play, this year, they are a better defensive team, Diaw, marion, bell can make defensive stops, they are no the pistons, but they score so much, they make it hard on other teams, because they have guys good enough to get defensive stops. The suns are struggling now, because their best interior defender KT is out, but when healthy the suns will get defensive stops and most importantly they finish off the stop by getting the rebound..
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Bippity10
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4/7/2006  1:23 PM
Why are we comparing the Knicks to the Suns and Mavericks. Do you honestly think we would be that good if we had a better coach? What is going on here?
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holfresh
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4/7/2006  1:51 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

Why are we comparing the Knicks to the Suns and Mavericks. Do you honestly think we would be that good if we had a better coach? What is going on here?



Because they all have up-tempo rosters...



[Edited by - holfresh on 04-07-2006 1:51 PM]
Bippity10
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4/7/2006  2:03 PM
So does my highschool team but I don't compare them to Dallas or Phoenix. The situations are entirely different. You don't seem to grasp that you are watching a horrible organization. I guess to you we are perpetually one player or in this case, one coach away from being Dallas or Phoenix
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fishmike
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4/7/2006  2:05 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

Do you guys think that Larry could coach the mavericks or suns? do they play the "right way" do they defend?

Come on, a good coach Eases his philosophy in, not brow beat his players until they submit, kill their games and then ship them out.

Bring in more youth that sucks will just make the knicks worst.

He's got to find a happy medium, not medium grade players.
if you have watched those teams you will see that they do play defense. They dont just push the ball looking to outscore. Diaw, Raja Bell, KT, Marion are all excellent defenders, and Nash never leaves his guy wide open for 3's, he chases his guard and gets his hands on a lot of balls. He plays HARD on defense and is very disruptive.
Avery Johnson has the Mavs playing better D than they ever have. Howard and Daniels have been tough all year and Dirk is much improved himself. He's flat out killed Dampier at time (yes publicly) for not putting enough effort into defense.

Please watch these teams. Same with the Nets. No.. Vince isnt locking guys down but he plays hard in the scheme and RJ/Kidd are two excellent defenders. Who's an excellent defender on our team? Last time we tried to "run" we gave up 70 first half points.

If you think we are a running team you dont know hoops. Running teams take care of the ball. They play excellent transition defense. They get in passing lanes. They rebound. They dont give up easy baskets. They swarm.

We do none of that stuff... at least our "leaders" dont.

You who ran a lot over the last few year? Larry's pistons. Rebounds, blocked shots and steals = a lot of layups for Prince, Billups, Sheed and Rip breaking down court. That team got a ton of easy buckets all created off of defense. Defense always makes offense easier.

bla bla bla... Larry is a jerk.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
fishmike
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4/7/2006  2:06 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by rvhoss:

Do you guys think that Larry could coach the mavericks or suns? do they play the "right way" do they defend?

Come on, a good coach Eases his philosophy in, not brow beat his players until they submit, kill their games and then ship them out.

Bring in more youth that sucks will just make the knicks worst.

He's got to find a happy medium, not medium grade players.

do you even watch the NBA?

Mavs under Avery play nothing like they did in the past. They defend they play more in the halfcourt, they play with a traditional starting 5.

Suns are uptempo but they GET STOPS. Marion, Raja Bell, Diaw, Barbosa, KT all 5 guys are regular in the rotation and all 5 put it on the line defensively night in and night out.

NY is the mirror opposite of those 2 teams.

NY's - they don't execute and they don't get stops. they don't try to get stops, they don't care for stopping. they don't know the plays. they either don't care or are oo dumb to learn them. they don't know where they are supposed to be positioned during certain situations. they are dor the most part uncoachable.

[Edited by - McK1 on 04-07-2006 08:21 AM]
sorry.. should have read what you wrote before replying... echo that. ^^^

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