Posted by crzymdups:

Does that coach think that the Knicks have the no.1 pick? hahahahahahahaahahahahahaha. Little does he know Tyrus WILL go to a veteran team in the Bulls.

even if he came here to the knicks- Brown would leave him inactive for the first game and then only begrudgingly play him sparingly- and heaven forbid he put up 30 & 15 on some night, he'll get buried on the bench thereafter

The thing that I find stupid and a little naive about this coach's comments: the worst teams ALWAYS make the evaluation as to who the top pick is. Sure he doesn't want to lose his player, but it just strikes me as pre-emptive sour grapes. If a player plays like this kid on the national stage of the tournie, people are going to think of him as a lotto pick.

Too many Eddy Curry's in the league and on this team to be handing minutes away.

So then why did Larry hand the starting spot to Eddy and basically say from day 1, "You've earned it for the full season no matter what happens"? He's continuing to this exact problem with Eddy

Posted by Bonn1997:

Too many Eddy Curry's in the league and on this team to be handing minutes away.

So then why did Larry hand the starting spot to Eddy and basically say from day 1, "You've earned it for the full season no matter what happens"? He's continuing to this exact problem with Eddy

That's the problem with our team and why we are struggling so much. Eddy has to play. We have noone that can lead. JJ does not deserve a minute let alone taking minutes from Eddie. Butler has not yet earned his minutes because even at his best and Eddie at his laziest, Eddie is still a better player. And it sends a poor message to promote a young guy because the other guy isn't performing when you really aren't either. JB needs to learn the lesson of winning his minutes so that he does not end up like Eddy.

Bonn I know you love the young guys but I'm telling you every year I have young guys come into my program. And no matter what the talent level, anytime I've given minutes to someone by default it has led to an entitled player that hasn't performed in the long run. It's okay to have a player fight for minutes. Trust me. When these guys are truly ready to play, their time will come. No coach, despite the myths, is ever going to hold you back when you are ready.

Posted by Caseloads:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Too many Eddy Curry's in the league and on this team to be handing minutes away.

So then why did Larry hand the starting spot to Eddy and basically say from day 1, "You've earned it for the full season no matter what happens"? He's continuing to this exact problem with Eddy

Well, there's Jerome "Garbage Bag Man" James and Jackie Butler in front of Eddy. Lets be honest, some players need to be in the game to develop. Furthermore, Jackie B has only a fraction of the percentage of talent that Eddy has.

So play Frye at the position Isiah said he drafted the 6'11" big to play at: center. He outworked all the Cs and David Lee outworked all the PFs. Any system that rewards effort and not only encourages fighting for minutes, but rewards those who win the fights, would have had both those players in the starting lineup. It's BS that Larry's making players earn their PT.

Posted by martin:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Caseloads:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Too many Eddy Curry's in the league and on this team to be handing minutes away.

So then why did Larry hand the starting spot to Eddy and basically say from day 1, "You've earned it for the full season no matter what happens"? He's continuing to this exact problem with Eddy

Well, there's Jerome "Garbage Bag Man" James and Jackie Butler in front of Eddy. Lets be honest, some players need to be in the game to develop. Furthermore, Jackie B has only a fraction of the percentage of talent that Eddy has.

So play Frye at the position Isiah said he drafted the 6'11" big to play at: center. He outworked all the Cs and David Lee outworked all the PFs. Any system that rewards effort and not only encourages fighting for minutes, but rewards those who win the fights, would have had both those players in the starting lineup. It's BS that Larry's making players earn their PT.

Bonn you are way out there if you think that Frye can handle the C position. The guy is not really strong enough for the PF position. Frye is PF, don't pay any particular attention to what Isiah is supposed to have said.

I have no doubt he can play the center position better than Curry and JJ and should be playing the position ahead of them. Most Centers are not big strong guys like Shaq and maybe Yao anyway.

I think the quote is absurd. Isiah drafts well. The problem is that he an egotistical fool.

Posted by McK1:

Isiah drafts OK.

in hindsight

8 - Granger

21 - Garcia

30 - Gomes

smart play, defense, knowledge of the game, and leadership

why Isiah believed he had those things in Marbury Curry Crawford Jerome James Mo Taylor and company is mind boggling. Adding a Robin in Frye, a Dyno-Mut in Nate, and Peter Parker to this group did little.

[Edited by - McK1 on 03-30-2006 9:59 PM]

No one was touching Granger with his injuries in college. Garcia - hmm, ok, maybe... Gomes - Do you think he'd get more burn than Lee is getting? Lee is the better prospect. Gomes plays with more fire and "freedom."

Lee a better prospect than Gomes?

Lee still has no NBA position. Gomes has learned 2.

Don't recall NY working out Danny or Cisco at all.

Let's grant the point about Gomes v. Lee, I still think Lee has talent. My only problem with Lee is that Isiah decided to keep him and give up an unprotected lottery pick instead of him for Curry. That is the idiocy in Isiah.

btw, After the draft it seemed more people here regreted not drafting Blatche or Taft instead of Lee than Gomes.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Allanfan20:

Yes, but they are a lot stronger than Frye!

Really? In our division, Frye would be guarding Nenad Krstick, Samuel Dalembert/Steven Hunter, Chris Bosh, and Raef LaFrentz. I like Frye more than Curry or JJ against every single one of those players. (The fact that Frye could draw them out to the perimeter on the other end is just a bonus.)


[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 03-30-2006 10:26 PM]

Frye fouling is the problem. And his rebounding positioning needs work. Those guys would wipe him out.

Curry does try.