Posted by islesfan:

Posted by oohah:

Is he an ass-hole or are those players just a bunch of pampered mental midgets who would rather stick with what they know, something that has never resulted in any tangible team success, than listen to a coach who has had success everywhere that he's been?

I've never claimed that this team was good, but they should be respectable. All this stuff about listening to the coach is nonsense. LB: "Hey fast guy--play slow!", "Hey you! Start tonight, DNP tomorrow!" Geez why are they having problems?

On a more interesting front, it seems that you are a Brown supporter. Does that mean that you think it was a good thing to sign him? Wouldn't that mean that Isiah Thomas did something right? Try side-stepping that one.

oohah

I wouldn't call myself a Brown supporter. I didn't think that he was a good fit from the beginning. That being said, I think my "support" for Brown is more of a question of who do I fault the least. I think Isiah, Dolan and the players who refuse to let Brown coach them are far more culpable for this mess than LB is. Afterall, it was a mess before LB got here.

I don't know of this "side-stepping" that you speak of.

I don't know of this "side-stepping" that you speak of.

I wouldn't call myself a Brown supporter. I didn't think that he was a good fit from the beginning. That being said, I think my "support" for Brown is more of a question of who do I fault the least. I think Isiah, Dolan and the players who refuse to let Brown coach them are far more culpable for this mess than LB is. Afterall, it was a mess before LB got here.

Why? They all have losing records, some have really losing records, why should here be different? Which one of these guys has come from a successful spot and failed to reproduce that under LB's impossible system?

Posted by tkf:

Posted by oohah:

I wish trevor well too..

But looking at his form and shot, I would forbid him to shoot jumpers also....

shoot and practice over the summer, show me you have put the work in, and then you can shoot them in the game... that is what we call, earning it..

The you would be making a mistake. Anyway, Brown has gotten to more players confidence than Ariza: Marbury, Crawford, Frye have had their confidence stepped on, and it is a testament to David Lee's and Nate Robinson's fortitude that they manage to keep their head up through all the mind games.oohah

that is called sifting the weeds from the wheat..... Only the strong survive, don't you want mentally tough players?

so trevor ariza @ 20 years of age and one year of college basketball is soft? glad we got rid of him.

YOu can teach, but what if the pupals are not willing?

If Einstien taught the "Sweathogs" would it just not go over their head?

COuld Larry be just too fundamental for these guys?

oohah, I questioned his moves, doesn't mean I don't support him, or that I think I know more than Brown, I just dissagree at times...

Posted by oohah:

I don't know of this "side-stepping" that you speak of.

Here it is:

I wouldn't call myself a Brown supporter. I didn't think that he was a good fit from the beginning. That being said, I think my "support" for Brown is more of a question of who do I fault the least. I think Isiah, Dolan and the players who refuse to let Brown coach them are far more culpable for this mess than LB is. Afterall, it was a mess before LB got here.

Don't take it personal, I am kidding with you. It was a mess, but it wasn't anywhere near this bad. At the very least you wouldn't think that things would completely fall apart under Brown, do you?

Why? They all have losing records, some have really losing records, why should here be different? Which one of these guys has come from a successful spot and failed to reproduce that under LB's impossible system?

Without checking the records, I would say that this is probably the worst team ever for any player on the Knicks, so while they aren't big winners, this is a new low for all of them, under the world's greatest coach. It is Browns job to get the wins out of them, that is why the W's and L's go on his record.

Check the Knicks win prediction thread from way back, nobody around here (islesfan?) thought the Knicks would be this bad, not me, not you. Have you now revised your opinion that this is a 25 win team and Brown has done the best job that one can do?

oohah

one thing I did say was I wouldnt be suprised by anything. I predicted them to be around .500 and miss the playoffs. I do remember saying I wouldnt be suprised if they win 50 games and they really play well as LB has a history of quick turnarounds. I also said I wouldnt be suprised if its a total disaster and they win 30 games.

Thats about as accountable as a weather man but my only point is I'm not suprised. It sucks but its not like the Yanks missing the playoffs.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Andrew:

who do you think told ariza that LB wanted him gone and Isiah wanted him to stay? Isiah maybe?

Yeah, probably, the press, Steve Mills, Larry Brown and anyone else with common sense. One guy is telling you are part of the future while another guy is constantly killing you and making sure everyone knows you are in his doghouse. Doesn't take a genius to figure out who wants you gone.