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Allanfan20
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3/22/2006  11:59 AM
I'm starting to think that both of them need to be traded. There was a 6 game stretch this season when Marbury played freaking awesome and like the MVP and his defense was terrific, but then the injuries came, excuses flew and now he's playing like shyat. If it were up to me, I'd trade both of them AND Crawford at this point, b/c I'm just sick of this losing environment that's been created. Maybe draft a shooting guard, sign Mike James or do a sign and trade for him.

Like I said, I'm just sick of this losing environment, I'm sick of the whining and moaning, and I'm sick of the absolutely way below sea level bball IQ. Time to rebuild that backcourt, and hopefully improve from within' with the frontcourt and find a way to add a shotblocker, or trade Curry for a young and upcoming one, like Sam D.
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3/22/2006  12:06 PM
having a hard nosed defender like Chris Childs running the point wouldn't be something i'd complain about, but Mike James is a couple notches above him in his scoring ability... i'd venture to guess he'll sign for a 5 year $40 million dollar type deal someplace... & he'd be well worth it imho.
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3/22/2006  12:27 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Chris Childs. Very good defensive player who was able to hit big shots and blended well into the offense. I miss that guy. If we sign him for the MLE and he turns out to be Chris Childs, I seriously wouldn't be too dissapointed.

Defense yes, able to hit big shots yes, I don't know about blending into the offense well at all, isn't that what got him shipped out of NY, he never materialize into the PG that played in the Meadowlands. He couldn't set up guys effectively. LOL, how have things change, I remember when Marbury and the T-Wolves would roll into the Garden and Marbury would post like 12 assist while the Knick PGs (Childs and Ward would post like 4 between them). And all the media people, fans would say man the Knicks can't get a PG like Marbury. Funny how times have changed.
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3/22/2006  12:36 PM
Funny, I remember how the Knicks used to always beat the T Wolves. Heck, I remember the Knicks usually beat the Nets and heck, even the Suns when Marbury was on those teams, even when the Knicks were bad.
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3/22/2006  12:44 PM
Chris Childs. Very good defensive player who was able to hit big shots and blended well into the offense. I miss that guy. If we sign him for the MLE and he turns out to be Chris Childs, I seriously wouldn't be too dissapointed.

having a hard nosed defender like Chris Childs running the point wouldn't be something i'd complain about, but Mike James is a couple notches above him in his scoring ability... i'd venture to guess he'll sign for a 5 year $40 million dollar type deal someplace... & he'd be well worth it imho.

Holy smoke, now we are fondly recalling Childs? Things really have gotten bad! Guys, Childs was not a good defensive player at all. He was reputed to be one when he got to the Knicks, then once here, opposing point guards would routinely hang season-high point totals on he and Ward. Have you all forgotten how Mark Jackson would carve them up dropping 20+ when he faced the Knicks? He ate them alive.

The point guard spot was the bane of the Knicks when Childs and Ward were here. EVERYBODY wanted the Knicks to upgrade. The difference now is that even though the Knicks are getting scored on a lot at the PG spot, at least they can score back.

Chris Childs was brought to NYC to be a starter, he got benched, he was mediocre. That's it.

Chris Childs career averages:

YEAR 	TEAM 	G 	GS 	MPG 	FG% 	3P% 	FT% 	OFF 	DEF 	RPG 	APG 	SPG 	BPG 	TO 	PF 	PPG
94-95 NJN 53 11 19.3 .380 .328 .753 .30 1.00 1.30 4.1 .79 .06 1.43 2.20 5.8
95-96 NJN 78 54 30.9 .416 .367 .852 .70 2.50 3.10 7.0 1.42 .10 2.95 3.20 12.8
96-97 NYK 65 61 31.9 .414 .387 .758 .30 2.60 2.90 6.1 1.20 .17 2.77 3.30 9.3
97-98 NYK 68 0 23.5 .421 .310 .825 .40 2.00 2.40 3.9 .82 .09 1.51 2.60 6.3
98-99 NYK 48 0 27.0 .427 .383 .821 .40 2.40 2.80 4.0 .92 .02 1.77 3.30 6.8
99-00 NYK 71 2 23.6 .409 .356 .797 .20 1.80 2.10 4.0 .51 .06 1.48 3.40 5.3
00-01 NYK 51 5 25.7 .419 .313 .848 .30 2.40 2.70 4.6 .73 .14 1.92 3.10 4.8
00-01 TOR 26 0 21.2 .372 .286 .840 .40 2.10 2.50 4.6 .85 .31 2.23 3.20 4.5
01-02 TOR 69 4 22.8 .328 .275 .817 .30 2.00 2.20 5.1 .81 .07 1.78 2.60 4.1
02-03 NJN 12 0 8.8 .300 .167 .667 .30 .20 .40 1.3 .67 .08 .50 1.40 1.3
Career 541 137 25.2 .403 .344 .816 .40 2.10 2.40 4.9 .91 .10 1.97 2.90 6.9
Playoff 73 23 26.8 .398 .365 .816 .40 2.60 2.90 4.4 .85 .05 2.05 3.40 7.1



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Side rant: I'd like to hear all the Allan Houston Dissers speak up now! The Knicks of the Allan Houston era were not so great, but they were competitive and better balanced than this team. Houston was clutch! He would win several games a year at least with late shots. Nobody on the Knicks is clutch. Crawford, nor Marbury are clutch. Remember "Allan Houston plays no D!". Well he was Alvin Robertson compared to any guard the Knicks got now!


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[Edited by - oohah on 03-22-2006 12:45 PM]
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3/22/2006  1:07 PM
speaking for myself, i was in no way overrating Chris Childs... he was mediocre offensively, but was always known as a tough on ball defender... but that was a different era when handchecking was allowed... i would venture to guess that he wouldn't have been as good if he were playing right now, but still better than Marbury on D, that's for sure.

as for what you said about Allan, i couldn't agree more... the guy was smashed to threads by the NY fans, but he at least was clutch & he was a respected leader in the lockerroom... same can't be said about Marbs.
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3/22/2006  4:02 PM
Yeah, I don't know where the big love is coming for Chris Childs, he lost his starting job twice. Him and Charlie were clutch shooters but they were classic turnover prone too. As far as the Knicks beating the Wolves that had more to do with a HOF center roaming the post while he was still capable of playing good basketball. And those games usually came down to the final seconds too. Good games, I love going to those games then and yes Marbury would outperform the Knick entire pg roster, didn't matter who they threw at him. But Ewing would do Ewing stuff and pull out the win. Hmm... as far as Houston being totally clutch, you are 50/50. many games he won for the Knicks and just as many he lost. The classic example of the not so clutch was the constant dribble off the foot (and you people thought Ariza had no ball handling skills). Second when did Houston become a Knick leader? During Ewing's time he heavily deferred to Ewing and Starks, then LJ when Ewing was traded, then when he tried to act as captain, Spree just kind of bitch him out to the press, JVG and anyone who cared to listen. Spree asked for him to be traded after each season. One of the reasons why Spree was traded not so much for him walking out on Dolan was his constant bashing of Houston (Dolan's golden child). The only Knick team Houston led was the Houston/KVH team for half a season.
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3/22/2006  4:21 PM
as far as Houston being totally clutch, you are 50/50. many games he won for the Knicks and just as many he lost.

Of course Houston missed some of those shots too. But it ain't nothin' like the todays Knicks where you expect them to ufck it up at the end. At least if the ball got to Houston you knew he had agood chance of making the shot, and during the real big money games he came through many times.

I am not saying Houston was a real leader. But he was the focal part of the offense even in Ewing's last couple of seasons. I never thought that was the right role for him but he performed consistently well and was a big part of the keeping team playoff bound.

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3/22/2006  5:19 PM
no matter how much of a tim hardaway he is i dont want him on this team. i want a pure point guard.

someone with great court vision.

someone willing to be larry brown's shadow...do everything he says to do
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3/22/2006  5:21 PM
Posted by TymeLessKnicks:

no matter how much of a tim hardaway he is i dont want him on this team. i want a pure point guard.

someone with great court vision.

someone willing to be larry brown's shadow...do everything he says to do

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3/22/2006  6:41 PM
Posted by TymeLessKnicks:

no matter how much of a tim hardaway he is i dont want him on this team. i want a pure point guard.

someone with great court vision.

someone willing to be larry brown's shadow...do everything he says to do


i agree, that would be ideal... but who are you going to get to fill that role?
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3/23/2006  9:20 AM
why take up another shot chuck while we already ahve 2 in MOE AND CRAW
Mike James reminds me of Tim Hardaway

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