Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by martin:

some guys just don't have the mental makeup. Everyone has played pickup basketball or soccer or volleyball or baseball or whatever and noticed some guy that is a thousand times more talented than everyone else around, but that guy just won't put in the energy or just plays AND1 style or decides he can smoke some weed just before the game cause it's just too damn easy.

And for the rest of us who would kill just to be out there, it's a damn shame. Damn shame.

*Sighs...* Yeah, its a damn shame....

And its also a damn shame that you just descrived the type of players the Knicks have been built of. Its a shame...

at some point you have to start to consider taking away the team captain position from him, if its hasnt been taken already.


those guys were real leaders, real captains