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crzymdups
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2/21/2006  3:01 PM
Posted by MS:

The fact that we have to waster our time with Mo and Malik is the real problem forget per and all that other ****, when Lee plays minutes the knicks have more energy and chances are move in the right direction....

Larry has been the worst coach in the NBA this season his refusal to start Frye is absurd this team is going nowhere and he just can't get it through his head that Fyre is the best alternative and needs to play 30 minutes a night....see what you have with Lee and Robinson and play them together with curry and frye as much as possible......

The team is already unwatchable we need to develop some chemistry for the future, not try to win 30 games......

Play the kids, put with jalen around that takes care of 35 minutes a game to one player that is not part of the future, stick to a plan and no one will complain

This is my problem. How many times has Larry said we're going with the kids? It's literally been 5 different times throughout the season. It's almost as if we go with the kids, they win, but Larry can't handle some of the mistakes they make during the wins, so he benches them in favor of the vets who make even worse mistakes and don't make any plays to compensate.

Give the fans a plan. People say this lack of a plan comes from Zeke, but look at the roster, clearly he meant for the kids to play. Larry SAYS we're going with the youth, but he doesn't actually play the youth more than the vets. And we have some of the worst vets in the league outside of Marbury.
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2/21/2006  3:06 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by MS:

The fact that we have to waster our time with Mo and Malik is the real problem forget per and all that other ****, when Lee plays minutes the knicks have more energy and chances are move in the right direction....

Larry has been the worst coach in the NBA this season his refusal to start Frye is absurd this team is going nowhere and he just can't get it through his head that Fyre is the best alternative and needs to play 30 minutes a night....see what you have with Lee and Robinson and play them together with curry and frye as much as possible......

The team is already unwatchable we need to develop some chemistry for the future, not try to win 30 games......

Play the kids, put with jalen around that takes care of 35 minutes a game to one player that is not part of the future, stick to a plan and no one will complain

This is my problem. How many times has Larry said we're going with the kids? It's literally been 5 different times throughout the season. It's almost as if we go with the kids, they win, but Larry can't handle some of the mistakes they make during the wins, so he benches them in favor of the vets who make even worse mistakes and don't make any plays to compensate.

Give the fans a plan. People say this lack of a plan comes from Zeke, but look at the roster, clearly he meant for the kids to play. Larry SAYS we're going with the youth, but he doesn't actually play the youth more than the vets. And we have some of the worst vets in the league outside of Marbury.


Player G GS MPG
Stephon Marbury 41 41 39.1
Jalen Rose 7 7 34.7
Eddy Curry 43 40 27.1
Jamal Crawford 49 16 33.3
Channing Frye 51 10 25.3
Nate Robinson 50 19 19.7
Quentin Richardson 43 33 25.6
Qyntel Woods 25 4 20.5
Maurice Taylor 45 13 17.3
Trevor Ariza 36 10 19.7
David Lee 39 13 16.1
Jackie Butler 28 0 10.4
Malik Rose 44 10 13.2
Jerome James 27 8 8.9
Anfernee Hardaway 4 0 18.0


outside of david lee, he IS playing the young kids...over maurice AND malik.
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2/21/2006  3:08 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by MS:

The fact that we have to waster our time with Mo and Malik is the real problem forget per and all that other ****, when Lee plays minutes the knicks have more energy and chances are move in the right direction....

Larry has been the worst coach in the NBA this season his refusal to start Frye is absurd this team is going nowhere and he just can't get it through his head that Fyre is the best alternative and needs to play 30 minutes a night....see what you have with Lee and Robinson and play them together with curry and frye as much as possible......

The team is already unwatchable we need to develop some chemistry for the future, not try to win 30 games......

Play the kids, put with jalen around that takes care of 35 minutes a game to one player that is not part of the future, stick to a plan and no one will complain

This is my problem. How many times has Larry said we're going with the kids? It's literally been 5 different times throughout the season. It's almost as if we go with the kids, they win, but Larry can't handle some of the mistakes they make during the wins, so he benches them in favor of the vets who make even worse mistakes and don't make any plays to compensate.

Give the fans a plan. People say this lack of a plan comes from Zeke, but look at the roster, clearly he meant for the kids to play. Larry SAYS we're going with the youth, but he doesn't actually play the youth more than the vets. And we have some of the worst vets in the league outside of Marbury.


If not for the 31 different starting line ups, I could almost say- Larry probably wants to play the kids, but can't- he has to showcase the vets for Isiah.



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2/21/2006  3:14 PM
Djsunyc: outside of david lee, he IS playing the young kids...over maurice AND malik.
What about Jerome James playing ahead of Jackie Butler?

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 02-21-2006 3:15 PM]
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2/21/2006  3:16 PM
I have one thing to say:

Malik has played 44 games and started 10!
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2/21/2006  3:23 PM
Posted by djsunyc:



Player G GS MPG
Stephon Marbury 41 41 39.1
Jalen Rose 7 7 34.7
Eddy Curry 43 40 27.1
Jamal Crawford 49 16 33.3
Channing Frye 51 10 25.3
Nate Robinson 50 19 19.7
Quentin Richardson 43 33 25.6
Qyntel Woods 25 4 20.5
Maurice Taylor 45 13 17.3
Trevor Ariza 36 10 19.7
David Lee 39 13 16.1
Jackie Butler 28 0 10.4
Malik Rose 44 10 13.2
Jerome James 27 8 8.9
Anfernee Hardaway 4 0 18.0


outside of david lee, he IS playing the young kids...over maurice AND malik.

Minutes per game is misleading when Lee has 13 DNPs - Coach's Decision next to his name that don't affect that average. If you factor in his 13 DNPs, over 52 games, Lee averages 12 minutes. There's also the fact that Lee racked up 349 of his 631 minutes this season, or 55% in the 13 game stretch where he was a starter. We went 6-7 in those games, by the way, and the last three losses came sans Marbury.

Lee's seven games in February look like this:

2/3 TOR - 23min
2/5 HOU - 0 min
2/7 LAC - 1 min
2/8 NJN - 8 min
2/10 NOR - 11 min
2/12 HOU - 2 min
2/13 DAL - 7 min
2/15 TOR - 20 min

Does that look like a set ammount of minutes that Lee knows he will get so he knows how to prepare for a game? And people will say, "oh, Lee has to earn his minutes." BULL! What has he done to NOT earn minutes? He's our leading rebounder per 48 minutes, despite his bull crap allotment of retarded minutes from our idiot piece of crap coach.

I can't believe anyone is standing for this bull crap. This is not the way you treat young players, you don't teach them by abritrarily starting them in their home town then benching them after they won six in a row starting. What an awful job Brown has done.
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2/21/2006  3:28 PM
"outside of david lee"
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2/21/2006  3:32 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Djsunyc: outside of david lee, he IS playing the young kids...over maurice AND malik.
What about Jerome James playing ahead of Jackie Butler?

you just signed the guy for 5 years $30 mil. don't you think he kind of has to get the benefit of the doubt and the minutes when he is healthy enough to play?

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2/21/2006  3:35 PM
is the goal to start every guy on the team 10 games? Does Larry need an 82 game training camp to figure it out?
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2/21/2006  3:36 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

is the goal to start every guy on the team 10 games? Does Larry need an 82 game training camp to figure it out?


no, he just needs 74.
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2/21/2006  4:00 PM
Minutes per game is misleading when Lee has 13 DNPs - Coach's Decision next to his name that don't affect that average. If you factor in his 13 DNPs, over 52 games, Lee averages 12 minutes. There's also the fact that Lee racked up 349 of his 631 minutes this season, or 55% in the 13 game stretch where he was a starter. We went 6-7 in those games, by the way, and the last three losses came sans Marbury.

Lee's seven games in February look like this:

2/3 TOR - 23min
2/5 HOU - 0 min
2/7 LAC - 1 min
2/8 NJN - 8 min
2/10 NOR - 11 min
2/12 HOU - 2 min
2/13 DAL - 7 min
2/15 TOR - 20 min

Does that look like a set ammount of minutes that Lee knows he will get so he knows how to prepare for a game? And people will say, "oh, Lee has to earn his minutes." BULL! What has he done to NOT earn minutes? He's our leading rebounder per 48 minutes, despite his bull crap allotment of retarded minutes from our idiot piece of crap coach.

I can't believe anyone is standing for this bull crap. This is not the way you treat young players, you don't teach them by abritrarily starting them in their home town then benching them after they won six in a row starting. What an awful job Brown has done.

Thanks for saving me a post crzymdups.

"outside of david lee"

Channing Frye should have been playing 35 minutes+ since about week 2. Screw the rookie wall, rookie errors, etc. He is the Knicks best front court player. Yes, better than Curry.

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
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2/21/2006  4:07 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Djsunyc: outside of david lee, he IS playing the young kids...over maurice AND malik.
What about Jerome James playing ahead of Jackie Butler?

you just signed the guy for 5 years $30 mil. don't you think he kind of has to get the benefit of the doubt and the minutes when he is healthy enough to play?

If Larry is basing playing time on salary, there's no hope
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2/21/2006  4:37 PM
If Larry is basing playing time on salary, there's no hope


Wait a second! Maybe we're on to something here! I've been asking for a real explanation of LB's rotations. All this "teaching them to learn" stuff is simply bunk.

$$=minutes? It might be the case! Otherwise, the only explanation is...there is no explanation.

oohah


Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
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