Posted by TMS:

my bad... franco called them a bunch of scrubs... but i'm not downplaying the nash effect... read my post & tell me where i said he didn't have a great effect on his team.

[Edited by - TMS on 02-17-2006 1:49 PM]

I'm not calling them a bunch of scrubs- I'm just saying most on this board wanted KT gone. What exactly did Diaw ever do before he got to Phoenix? How about average 4.8 pts a game. Raja Bell? Leandro Barbosa?

Granted- Nash has a great system with Dantoni that makes him look good- but the fact is, he makes things work there.

Marion has played awesome. But everyone on this board talks about how frye or lee can't guard the premier 4's in the league and Marion is not a four but plays there every night.

And, for all the new players brought in, they have instantly developed chemistry. And its Nash.

I don't know if anyone remembers this, I think it was the Heat Suns game during which the Suns put up 47 in the first quarter- at half time, they had that short interview with Nash and asked about what he thought of Pat Riley saying he thought Nash was the best pg since magic- or something similar. Nash at first said something nice about, then laughed and said Riley was full of BS. I was cracking up and it shows that 1. Nash has a sense of humor and 2. he must be fun to play with on the court.

Nash has been great for Phoenix... i never said anything to the contrary.

Billups or Dirk on Dallas.

Posted by Marv:

Lebron.

31 points/7 boards/7 assists/48% FG/2 steals/1 block

Cleveland is 31-21.

Can you even imagine their record without King James?

Thank you, Marv. I can't believe it took this deep into this thread to give LeBron his due. The Cavs are 10 games over, and just 4 games worse than Phoenix, and a half-game better than the Clippers. Cleveland would get the No. 4 seed right now, and would be in first place or one game out in the loss column in three other divisions. And the only one at all to thank is LeBron, who's numbers are so Jordanesque, it's uncanny.