Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by TheloniusMonk:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by fishmike:

be realistic. There is definatly a Jerome James downside there.

There is downside to any player who hasnt hit a peak in his play, or in this case has a ways to go. But you have to add in the the intangibles.
number 1 very hard work ethic
number 2 very intelligent 1100 sat
number 3 willing student
if you add up that he is 7-2 275 and growing and these tidbits, I would say the downside is more like a Brendan Haywood.

Well I'd say his upside is Brendan Haywood. Also there are a host of players who are academically gifted. Doesn't translate to the court. I can't believe you keep talking about his SAT score in reference to his potential to dominate in the NBA lol. Now THAT'S funny.



[Edited by - theloniusmonk on 02-16-2006 08:05 AM]

I prefer intelligent players. In fact If I was doing a team, that would be at or near the top of the criteria list.

Briggs- if you didn't post so much on this forum, I would swear you had a front office job with the celtics!

btw- I am agreeing with you about Bynum showing flashes- but then, the whole knick roster has shown flashes.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by fishmike:

be realistic. There is definatly a Jerome James downside there.

There is downside to any player who hasnt hit a peak in his play, or in this case has a ways to go. But you have to add in the the intangibles.
number 1 very hard work ethic
number 2 very intelligent 1100 sat
number 3 willing student
if you add up that he is 7-2 275 and growing and these tidbits, I would say the downside is more like a Brendan Haywood.

Briggs, never defend yourself in court. You'll get convicted for sure. Some of the NBA's best wouldn't even know what the hell is a SAT. 2) Getting 1100 is nothing to brag about now adays. Hell they give you 200 points if you spell your name right. 3) You may want to speak with Phil Jackson about his progress. The guy is making more than obvious that he wasn't on board to get Bynum. He went out of his way to complement Frye, Granger, Bogut and about every other rookie but his own. I am curious what his upside is because he is not as athlethic as first advertise. I thought maybe Shaq or Curry was as first but he reminds me more of a Kevin Duckworth without a reliable jumper which isn't that bad of a player if you remember Duckworth when he first came into the league. I do see Haywood comparisons right on though. I think Bynum could make his mark on the defensive end as a clogger, getting rebounds. Think of taller version of Nazr. Not a guy I would build a franchise around or even consider a key piece.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by fishmike:

be realistic. There is definatly a Jerome James downside there.

There is downside to any player who hasnt hit a peak in his play, or in this case has a ways to go. But you have to add in the the intangibles.
number 1 very hard work ethic
number 2 very intelligent 1100 sat
number 3 willing student
if you add up that he is 7-2 275 and growing and these tidbits, I would say the downside is more like a Brendan Haywood.

Briggs, never defend yourself in court. You'll get convicted for sure. Some of the NBA's best wouldn't even know what the hell is a SAT. 2) Getting 1100 is nothing to brag about now adays. Hell they give you 200 points if you spell your name right. 3) You may want to speak with Phil Jackson about his progress. The guy is making more than obvious that he wasn't on board to get Bynum. He went out of his way to complement Frye, Granger, Bogut and about every other rookie but his own. I am curious what his upside is because he is not as athlethic as first advertise. I thought maybe Shaq or Curry was as first but he reminds me more of a Kevin Duckworth without a reliable jumper which isn't that bad of a player if you remember Duckworth when he first came into the league. I do see Haywood comparisons right on though. I think Bynum could make his mark on the defensive end as a clogger, getting rebounds. Think of taller version of Nazr. Not a guy I would build a franchise around or even consider a key piece.

This forum needs "applaud" icons like MSG had!

the bottom line is you cant evaluate this player for 3-4 years. you either have the foresight to SEE what this kid can possibly acheive or you may not see anything. I believe he is a tremendous upside prospect. in this world no risk==no reward

One issue to consider with a Guy like Bynum is a lot can happen in three years. He can blowout a knee, have personal problems, just grow up to be a jerk. That's all in addition to just not improving as a player. IF a guy contributing now gets hurt in
two years from now - you still got some return on investment - but with a guy who is all potential - nothing.

If Bynum was at UCONN right now I think its safe to say he'd be as good as Boone and Armstrong, as a freshman, in which case everyone would be talking about how the Knicks traded the draft pick for Curry and passed up the next big thing.

How can you give Briggs crap for liking Bynum with a straight face when the kid's 18 years old? Seriously, that's laughable to call Briggs out b/c Bynum got blocked by an NBA vet as an 18 year old. I'm with Briggs on this one, I think Bynum will be, at WORST, better than Eddy "Yo pass me another helping of mashed potatoes" Curry. Curry will probably have dropped dead by the time Bynum is 21.

He is shooting 30% from the stripe this year, that's always a sign of a great young talent.

Posted by BigSm00th:

If Bynum was at UCONN right now I think its safe to say he'd be as good as Boone and Armstrong, as a freshman, in which case everyone would be talking about how the Knicks traded the draft pick for Curry and passed up the next big thing.

How can you give Briggs crap for liking Bynum with a straight face when the kid's 18 years old? Seriously, that's laughable to call Briggs out b/c Bynum got blocked by an NBA vet as an 18 year old. I'm with Briggs on this one, I think Bynum will be, at WORST, better than Eddy "Yo pass me another helping of mashed potatoes" Curry. Curry will probably have dropped dead by the time Bynum is 21.

What are you talking about, Briggs said at worst Bynum could be comparable to Haywood. So let me get this straight you think Haywood is better than Curry.