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the vets on this team suck
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TMS
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2/9/2006  1:21 PM
i actually think Lee has the best all around game of all 3... he plays smart when he's on the floor, he makes good passes when he needs to, he rebounds like a demon, & he shows a toughness that i sometimes question when i see Frye... Frye is definitely the more talented offensive player by far, but i think Lee can be 1 of those "heart & soul" type players that every team needs if he gets the chance to develop his game.
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fishmike
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2/9/2006  1:23 PM
I would agree except for his size.
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knicks1248
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2/9/2006  1:26 PM
Yeah they have major short comings like most rookies. But no one can deny the talant.

Nate is ridiculously athletic and strong for his hieght and size, and can out jump half the league at 5 9". His decision making, shot selection, and IQ, has got to improve sooner then later or else he will be the best player in the development league.

Lee has got to be more aggressive on the offesive end, or he's destine to stay coming off the bench as a seventh man for any team.

Fry is going to flat out be a top 10 Pf/C within the next 2 to 3 years, also the only rookie who should be untouchable uless u are getting a star play and a 1st round pick ( of course not a straight up deal)

Butler is just not ready for this league on a every night basis.

Curry and JC are almost there, a couple of years under larry or any no non sense coach, and there all stars.
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2/9/2006  1:51 PM
Isiah finally came out and said on WFAN that the team is rebuilding. Now after a power struggle, that plan is out the window.

Curry, Frye, Lee and Qwoods is a start. Not a great start, but a start. Accumulating draft picks and weeding out these horrible vets should have been the next move. But Now, it seems as if Isiah has turned over the controls to Brown. This means the rebuilding plans are over with. He's not the type of coach you rebuild with anyway, si it was Isiahs blunder to hire him in the first place. Brown is a deal closer.

Browns histroy tells you that he leaves team in worse shap than when he found them.

-He took Kansas to the championship, but left on probation.
-The Nets won some games with him, but it was back to oblivion when he left.
-Same with the Clipppers
-Same with UCLA
-Philly is still tripping over themselves
-The only team that seems better after he left is the Pistons but they were ready made when he got there.

Giving Brown control of roster movement is a mistake. He's gonna fill this roster with overachieving players who will give enough effort to maybe get a 7th seed in the playoffs. Everyone will praise Brown for getting a sqaud of overachievers to the playoffs. Everyone will praise them for giving max-effort.

Then he'll leave, and Herb Willimas will be stuck with:

Reggie Evans
George Lynch
Theo Ratliff
Eric Snow, etc. Then the next GM will have to come in and figure out a way to rid this team of those overated players with big contracts. At the same time, Lee and Frye may be developing somewhere else.

At least we have Curry, Frye and Lee to give us hope (false hop or not) about the future. But Brown will leave no evidence of a future when he leaves.
"Man, who knows with this team." Aguirre.
Knight
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2/9/2006  1:52 PM
Yeah, so far Brown has brought in Qyntel Woods, he is ruining our future for sure.
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fishmike
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2/9/2006  2:31 PM
When Brown took over Phili was a joke. He went to the playoffs every year with them including an NBA finals. Brown left Phili is a joke again. I only see one pattern there. Same with NJ. They were horrible when he took over. Brown clearly elevate the play of the Pistons.
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bigbeast
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2/9/2006  2:41 PM
No Rasheed Wallace, No rings for Brown! True story!
"Man, who knows with this team." Aguirre.
djsunyc
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2/13/2006  1:16 AM
here are the ages of the players we have been using as of late:

craw - 25
q - 25
jalen - 33
mo - 29
curry - 23

nate - 21
frye - 22
q2 - 24

jj, malik - limited minutes
dlee, trev, butler - no minutes

we are playing young guys. again, the guys with nba experience here just aren't good enough to win games. marbury will help this but not enough to make a huge difference in the win/loss differential. moves are required.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 02-13-2006 01:17 AM]
the vets on this team suck

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