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Long Overdue: The Case for Starting Frye over Mo Taylor
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2/6/2006  9:07 PM
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I don't understand how this is even debatable.

It's called developing a player.

There isn't a single rookie anywhere in the league who is playing as well as Frye and coming off the bench. I know there is more pressure in NY, but one of the best things about Frye seems like his ability to handle the pressure.

Have you ever thought that maybe he is succeeding partly because he is able to come off the bench and not have the pressure of starting and playing against first units?

His numbers as a starter are better. He has two 30pt games as a starter.
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2/6/2006  9:07 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
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I don't understand how this is even debatable.

It's called developing a player.

There isn't a single rookie anywhere in the league who is playing as well as Frye and coming off the bench. I know there is more pressure in NY, but one of the best things about Frye seems like his ability to handle the pressure.

Have you ever thought that maybe he is succeeding partly because he is able to come off the bench and not have the pressure of starting and playing against first units?

His numbers as a starter are better. He has two 30pt games as a starter.

That was way before teams adjusted.
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2/6/2006  9:08 PM
Not only should Channing Frye start ahead of Mo Taylor, but David Lee should play ahead of Mo T
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2/6/2006  9:10 PM
Posted by Knight:
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I don't understand how this is even debatable.

It's called developing a player.

There isn't a single rookie anywhere in the league who is playing as well as Frye and coming off the bench. I know there is more pressure in NY, but one of the best things about Frye seems like his ability to handle the pressure.

Have you ever thought that maybe he is succeeding partly because he is able to come off the bench and not have the pressure of starting and playing against first units?

His numbers as a starter are better. He has two 30pt games as a starter.

That was way before teams adjusted.

If Frye had more time on the floor he would adjust right back and he has shown an ability to. He is developing moves in the post every game. In the Seattle game, a defender ran out to contest his jumper and he drove by him for a dunk. Same thing against Washington.

Any player is going to play better with a consistent role, Frye deserves one.
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2/6/2006  9:11 PM
We're not going to start winning again until Larry "gives up" and plays the kids, like he did when he ran up the white flag and started Nate and DLee and we won 6 in a row.
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2/6/2006  9:14 PM
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We're not going to start winning again until Larry "gives up" and plays the kids, like he did when he ran up the white flag and started Nate and DLee and we won 6 in a row.

There is no battle going on here between Larry and our young players. He is not sabotaging their development just to play guys closer to his age and make his job easier--he wants to bring them along properly.
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2/6/2006  9:15 PM
Mo Taylor has a 21 and 12 witha block game as astrter. It hapeens to also be the only game he played over 30 minutes. He played 38 exactly.

Frye has 12 30 plus minute games - 1 double-double.
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2/6/2006  9:17 PM
Why should anyone expect equal production? Frye is nine years younger.

The Knicks aren't making the playoffs. Frye needs the PT to develop. Mo T needs the PT because...I don't know why.
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2/6/2006  9:17 PM
I garee on showing Curry and Fruye into a lock 35 minutes a night no matter the cicumstance. Frye's confidence is low, he needs to have it re-inforced. He also needs to play smarter and that comes with PT. When it comes down to it, Frye is our highest level hope[and this is comg from a guy who would look at different scenarios trade wise if it was big-big young] I still like Frye, Frye needs LB to give him run and support, but this whole thing is just blowing up. The Isiah -----LB thing is about to blow-up I believe.
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2/6/2006  9:17 PM
Posted by McK1:

Mo Taylor has a 21 and 12 witha block game as astrter. It hapeens to also be the only game he played over 30 minutes. He played 38 exactly.

Frye has 12 30 plus minute games - 1 double-double.

and what do you know, Frye's double double came in a win and Mo's came in a loss. weird, right?
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2/6/2006  9:18 PM
Posted by Rich:

Why should anyone expect equal production? Frye is nine years younger.

The Knicks aren't making the playoffs. Frye needs the PT to develop. Mo T needs the PT because...I don't know why.

26 minutes a night for a rookie isn't enough time?
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2/6/2006  9:20 PM
Posted by Knight:
Posted by Rich:

Why should anyone expect equal production? Frye is nine years younger.

The Knicks aren't making the playoffs. Frye needs the PT to develop. Mo T needs the PT because...I don't know why.

26 minutes a night for a rookie isn't enough time?

He's down to 25mpg and sinking every night because of Mo's veteran leadership. At least AD set a good example on D, MoT is useless. He can score a little, but Frye is better at that. The only possibly argument to start Mo is to see how many charges he can draw.

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2/6/2006  9:22 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Knight:
Posted by Rich:

Why should anyone expect equal production? Frye is nine years younger.

The Knicks aren't making the playoffs. Frye needs the PT to develop. Mo T needs the PT because...I don't know why.

26 minutes a night for a rookie isn't enough time?

He's down to 25mpg and sinking every night because of Mo's veteran leadership. At least AD set a good example on D, MoT is useless. He can score a little, but Frye is better at that. The only possibly argument to start Mo is to see how many charges he can draw.

They should also keep stats on how many easy baskets your man got because you stood there hoping for a charge instead of playing D.
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2/6/2006  9:22 PM
How can you say 25mpg is enough time for a lotto pick on a team with one of the worst records in basketball? Is Mo helping us win? no. Is he playing so well his trade value is going up? no. Has Frye looked like a star and a possible rookie of the year at times? Yes. That alone is reason to start him. Consistency comes with minutes.
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2/6/2006  9:22 PM
Frye has probably already played an equivalent of a college season this year, to expect him to physically pull off a 35 minute a night performance is crazy. Not to mention doing it while guarding the other teams best PF.
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2/6/2006  9:25 PM
Posted by Knight:

Frye has probably already played an equivalent of a college season this year, to expect him to physically pull off a 35 minute a night performance is crazy. Not to mention doing it while guarding the other teams best PF.

bogut and Paul are doing okay.

and let's not act like MoT guards anyone.
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2/6/2006  9:27 PM
those guys know how to play. Frye knows how to shoot.
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2/6/2006  9:29 PM
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those guys know how to play. Frye knows how to shoot.

True.
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2/6/2006  9:36 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Knight:

Frye has probably already played an equivalent of a college season this year, to expect him to physically pull off a 35 minute a night performance is crazy. Not to mention doing it while guarding the other teams best PF.

bogut and Paul are doing okay.

paul? doing ok? that my friend is an understatement.
chris paul, RIGHT NOW, is probably the THIRD best pg in the nba (torn ligaments and all). rookie game? puh-leaze. we're talking allstar game for him.
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2/6/2006  9:38 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by crzymdups:
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Frye has probably already played an equivalent of a college season this year, to expect him to physically pull off a 35 minute a night performance is crazy. Not to mention doing it while guarding the other teams best PF.

bogut and Paul are doing okay.

paul? doing ok? that my friend is an understatement.
chris paul, RIGHT NOW, is probably the THIRD best pg in the nba (torn ligaments and all). rookie game? puh-leaze. we're talking allstar game for him.

I hope the rookie game boosts Frye's and Nate's confidence.

Maybe Frye can start that one, at least.
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