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MS
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2/3/2006  1:32 PM
What a stupid ****ing post!

Fans will be patient if there is a plan in place to rebuild; not making the Playoffs signifies rebuilding and we haven't really sniffed the playoffs for four years and have had a losing record in each season. So where is this rebuilding plan....

Trevor Ariza? (Has not shown any improvement)
David Lee (Solid fundamental, good role player to have off the bench)
Nate Robinson (Exciting, high energy, can shoot and penetrate but is he a starter in this league? Who knows)
Channing Frye (Will be good down the road, so yes he counts as a block)
Eddy Curry (doesn't commit to an offseason workout, can't pass, rebound, or defend)

Draft pick traded for the next two years, cap out, so how are we rebuilding we can't because of the situation....Crawford is a terrible basketball player and we have his salary till 09' and Jerome Williams is counting against our cap so thats not a rebuilding move........

Mutumbo would be a 2 million dollar back up for a year, but we have JJ for 5 at 29.5 so thats rebuilding.....

Isiah isn't smart enough to have a plan or rebuild he just adds contracts and trades draft picks, maybe if you knew your info you would realize people are patient if there is a concrete plan, not

"You can't rebuild" "We are rebuilding" Isiah is so dumb it is unreal, and anyone who thinks this man could lead you in the right direction can follow
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MS
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2/3/2006  1:37 PM
And Marbury who has played well might be one of the least intelligent players in the NBA, for him to still believe he is better than Jason Kidd is unbelievable.....

God the stupidity of this post annoys me; keep believing the **** you say and you will be saying the same thing 3 more years down the road.....

If you rebuild you tank and hold onto your pick you draft a high school center and take a chance down the road, you tank the season and add another power foward you move your best players for cap space to play the younger guys to let them learn and lose while winning in the long run
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2/3/2006  1:38 PM
I can almost reason to all of Isiahs moves.

But the Jerome James signing was so obviously bad.

It was bad enough when Layden pursued him three years before. But at least we could have the hindsight to say "whew"!

Then Isiah does this contract with this piece of $hit!

This is an old thread subject, but to reiterate, fire Isiah and then what?

Like Layden before him, we can only urge that he be patient, and don't do anything too stupid.

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James?

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2/3/2006  1:38 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Travla:

I don't care if we are rebuilding, what I care about is a team that shows effort, attitude and has heart. You don't get beat by 20 and 30 points on consecutive nights (by two teams that aren't good) if you have those attributes.

exactly how i feel... if this team was losing while putting up a fight & showing some heart, i'd have no problem w/being patient... but they look like dogs, plain & simple... are we supposed to just accept that & not vent our frustration over it?

thinking about this again...i feel this is a situation that is impossible to solve and will never change, thus causing this franshise to be out of contention for a championship for years to come. as a city we put too much pressure on our franshises. the media, the fans...everyone.

thank u Bip for seeing my point a little....

TMS- u want the truth but u cant handle the truth....when a team is loosing alot more than they were "projected" to...they will more than likley get down on themselves and as a result not try as hard night in night out.

i quoted projected because as fans we probably should have seen this coming...and the media is still wrinting about this team like we just went to the finals last year....but like i said thinking about this again this impatient attitude and apprentice like firing might not end until we as a city humble our thought about our franshises and let them rebuild and that means loose and maybe loose really bad!!!
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2/3/2006  1:41 PM
The city is impatient and Larry Brown is not making it better with his negative speeches about the players every night in the media. Every team has their days....the Knicks aren't the only team doing bad. But Brown is the only coach that comes out and says his team are basically idiots. Another reason to fire his ass.
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2/3/2006  1:43 PM
dude, you want me on that wall... YOU NEED ME ON THAT WALL!

& please, don't talk to me about this team being down on themselves because they're losing... that's not encouraging at all... if anything, i want to see a team that gets ANGRY when they're losing & come out harder the next game... if they put up a fight & still lose, then that's fine with me... you can attribute that to lack of talent or lack of experience... but when you attribute losses to lack of heart & lack of effort, then that's 1 thing i can never accept... if you're ok with that, that's your prerogative.
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2/3/2006  1:46 PM
Larry is not pushing the propoganda. I respect him for that.
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2/3/2006  1:49 PM
Posted by MS:

What a stupid ****ing post!

Fans will be patient if there is a plan in place to rebuild; not making the Playoffs signifies rebuilding and we haven't really sniffed the playoffs for four years and have had a losing record in each season. So where is this rebuilding plan....

Trevor Ariza? (Has not shown any improvement)
David Lee (Solid fundamental, good role player to have off the bench)
Nate Robinson (Exciting, high energy, can shoot and penetrate but is he a starter in this league? Who knows)
Channing Frye (Will be good down the road, so yes he counts as a block)
Eddy Curry (doesn't commit to an offseason workout, can't pass, rebound, or defend)

Draft pick traded for the next two years, cap out, so how are we rebuilding we can't because of the situation....Crawford is a terrible basketball player and we have his salary till 09' and Jerome Williams is counting against our cap so thats not a rebuilding move........

Mutumbo would be a 2 million dollar back up for a year, but we have JJ for 5 at 29.5 so thats rebuilding.....

Isiah isn't smart enough to have a plan or rebuild he just adds contracts and trades draft picks, maybe if you knew your info you would realize people are patient if there is a concrete plan, not

"You can't rebuild" "We are rebuilding" Isiah is so dumb it is unreal, and anyone who thinks this man could lead you in the right direction can follow


if u think this post is so stupid dont say ****!!!!

there is more than one way to build a house....i dont think isaih is some kind of ****ing god but realax with the firing protest.

ur the type of mother****er that would still complain even if we get ray allen. "ray allen doesnt play defense".

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2/3/2006  1:53 PM
just an fyi, when you start off a thread w/things like:
to all u LB and Isaih haters out there...shut the hell up!!!! we dont need to fire anybody!!!! we treat this team like the apprentice...****

you have to assume you're going to get some protests fired back at you.
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2/3/2006  1:55 PM
Posted by TMS:

dude, you want me on that wall... YOU NEED ME ON THAT WALL!

& please, don't talk to me about this team being down on themselves because they're losing... that's not encouraging at all... if anything, i want to see a team that gets ANGRY when they're losing & come out harder the next game... if they put up a fight & still lose, then that's fine with me... you can attribute that to lack of talent or lack of experience... but when you attribute losses to lack of heart & lack of effort, then that's 1 thing i can never accept... if you're ok with that, that's your prerogative.


TMS- not everyone has ur braveheart rah rah fighting spirit. but i guess u want to trade our talent for players that do huh? when these guys learn to play the right way, they will be able to see the difference...everything that was complicated will look like a cake walk. if they know they are playing the right way...they will then have a fighting chance to win everygame...until then accept the fact that in any given rotation we have atleast 3 players on the floor that are somewhat lost
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2/3/2006  1:57 PM
Posted by TMS:

just an fyi, when you start off a thread w/things like:
to all u LB and Isaih haters out there...shut the hell up!!!! we dont need to fire anybody!!!! we treat this team like the apprentice...****

you have to assume you're going to get some protests fired back at you.


fyi, i like the protests...a good change from the norm on this site
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2/3/2006  2:00 PM
thing is, they were looking great during that 6 game winning streak... then all of a sudden, it looks like they just quit & stopped playing hard... i can't understand what happened... i want to see this team giving an effort each night... not going hard for 1 or 2 quarters & then sleepwalking through the rest of the game... i know they have the talent to win games... but do they have the heart to win on a consistent basis? that's key.
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2/3/2006  2:05 PM
Posted by TymeLessKnicks:



i feel that some of isaihs moves is an affect of how impatient NY fans are. we want a championship tomorrow. if u were refering to isaih trading for steph when he just came then i believe he did that to calm us down, the fans. because we cant accept a rebuild we needed to be given hope.

He traded for Steph to calm us down?? Are you freaking kidding me? What kind of justification is that? He got Steph because his M.O. is to get whoever is available regardless of how they fit or what the asking price is just as long as it makes a big splash.

Steph's available? Great, what do you want for him. Curry is available? Sure, we can leave it unprotected. And you want the right to trade picks with us the following year too? Sure, we can leave that one unprotected as well. You don't want Crawford anymore and neither does anybody else? Sure we'll take him and we'll even use our MLE on Vin Baker if you want us to.

I think the Phoenix Suns have Isiah on speed dial under "Clear Cap Space" and the Bulls have Isiah on their speed dial under "Unprotected Draft Picks".
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2/3/2006  2:26 PM
Your just plain ****ing stupid!!

If you give up more points than you score you are useless last time i check ray outscores everyone that guards him and spreads the defense and hits clutch baskets and has been in the playoffs unlike our clowns
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2/3/2006  2:26 PM
Your just plain ****ing stupid!!

If you give up more points than you score you are useless last time i check ray outscores everyone that guards him and spreads the defense and hits clutch baskets and has been in the playoffs unlike our clowns
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