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EnySpree
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12/15/2005  6:02 PM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by EnySpree:



Who is gonna score with that line-up? Chucky Atkins? Who would the team beat with those players? The current team is way better than these guys. You gotta be kidding me if you want Juan Dixon or David Wesley and Jared Jefferies and thing the Knicks are better off.

Who says they have to start. I wouldnt mind starting Chucky Atkins next to Marbury. The problem with the Knicks offense right now is that they have no one to set it up! Marbury can not setup the offense, if you bring in a PG that can set it up then there wont be any problems, and Chucky Atkins can set it up. Jared Jeffries could certainly start at the 3, he's got a pretty good shot and would cause matchup problems playing next to Frye and Curry. He's better then any 3 that the Knicks currently have and plays good defense. If the Knicks had Wesley, they could bring him off the bench and play him in the backcourt with Crawford. Theres one thing Wesley can do and thats shoot the ball, something the Knicks sorely lack.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-15-2005 5:49 PM]


according to wizards fans, Jeffries has no shot, and they would prefer ariza over him.

According to my own eyes Jared Jefferies is a retard. He is has two left feet he can't shoot dribble and he is weak. He is not a defensive threat at all. I hate Ariza but I'd rather have Ariza than Retard Jefferies.

The Knicks have good players already. They have no game plan......that is Larry Browns fault. Why aren't they allowing Marbs to just do his thing. 20 and 8 for his career? Marbs is our best player. He should be doing his thing. Larry is a jerk.

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12/15/2005  6:04 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

So who are you trading away to get the bums that you suggested?

Set up the offense? Marbury is the offense.......who should Marbs pass to Malik Rose? Marbs has been averaging 20 and 8 for his career. All of a sudden he is a tard?

Larry has refused to play with what he has. Larry points the finger and people like you eat it up. Larry was starting guys based on their hometowns! Are you kidding me?

Just for the record, I have been one of Stephons biggest supporters on this forum since the day I joined.

Bums, their called solid players, Atkins he's won a NBA championship See the problem with you is that your blinded by Marburys 20 and 8. No team with a PG that IS the offense is going to win anything. PG's need to pass the ball which is why I proposed bringing in a REAL PG like Chucky Atkins so Marbury can play the 2, the position he is best suited for. People like you eat up the "stardom" that Marbury has and think he can do no wrong, this isn't streetball this is the NBA where PGs are supposed to pass the ball and setup offenses. For the first time in Stephs career he's playing in a structured offense and he's failing miserably and thats a bad sign for the Knicks if they want to keep using him as the PG. EVEN STEPHON says he wants to play the 2.

Your the one whose blinded and your right Larry is blinding me... with the championship ring he has.

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12/15/2005  6:06 PM
No one has answered my question with any intelligence.

I want to know what will it take to get the King of coaching Larry Brown to come up with a game plan, starting line-up and rotation. What will it take to figure out what the strengths of his players are?

Tell me.........if you can't then I want to organize a protest of Larry Brown......I'm so dead serious about that.
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12/15/2005  6:09 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

No one has answered my question with any intelligence.

I want to know what will it take to get the King of coaching Larry Brown to come up with a game plan, starting line-up and rotation. What will it take to figure out what the strengths of his players are?

Tell me.........if you can't then I want to organize a protest of Larry Brown......I'm so dead serious about that.


no one can answer that but Larry.. i dont know what you expect anyone to say. i would imagine he knows their strengths, its just our players are very consistent and lack heart(some), thereby making it difficult to settle on a lineup.
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12/15/2005  6:10 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

No one has answered my question with any intelligence.

I want to know what will it take to get the King of coaching Larry Brown to come up with a game plan, starting line-up and rotation. What will it take to figure out what the strengths of his players are?

Tell me.........if you can't then I want to organize a protest of Larry Brown......I'm so dead serious about that.

The strengths of his players are loserness, pussiness, and retardedness--he is getting the most out of them, trust me. Find players who aren't those things and he'll play to their strengths as well. You want names? Billups, Rip, Prince, Sheed, and Big Ben. There you go.

[Edited by - Knight on 12-15-2005 6:13 PM]
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12/15/2005  6:15 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Bums, their called solid players, Atkins he's won a NBA championship See the problem with you is that your blinded by Marburys 20 and 8. No team with a PG that IS the offense is going to win anything.

Isiah Thomas comes to mind.

Chucky Atkins won a championship with who? Greg Kite won championships too.

So I'm blined by Marbury's 20 and 8 and you can't see that the coach needs to be fired because he bases his startign line-up by where a person grew up?

Q gets hot he gets benched.........Pat Garrity gets hot they call 3 straight plays for him. Channing scored how many 20 point games before he got his first start?

You are just a media slave. Simple and plain.
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12/15/2005  6:18 PM
Posted by Knight:
Posted by EnySpree:

No one has answered my question with any intelligence.

I want to know what will it take to get the King of coaching Larry Brown to come up with a game plan, starting line-up and rotation. What will it take to figure out what the strengths of his players are?

Tell me.........if you can't then I want to organize a protest of Larry Brown......I'm so dead serious about that.

The strengths of his players are loserness, pussiness, and retardedness--he is getting the most out of them, trust me. Find players who aren't those things and he'll play to their strengths as well. You want names? Billups, Rip, Prince, Sheed, and Big Ben. There you go.

[Edited by - Knight on 12-15-2005 6:13 PM]


So if our players are all of this then who should we get? Trade our roster for Detroit's roster?

No one has answered the question yet. Who the hell do the Knicks trade and for who will make Larry Brown all of a sudeen figure out a starting line-up, rotation and plan of attack?


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12/15/2005  6:19 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Bums, their called solid players, Atkins he's won a NBA championship See the problem with you is that your blinded by Marburys 20 and 8. No team with a PG that IS the offense is going to win anything.

Isiah Thomas comes to mind.

Chucky Atkins won a championship with who? Greg Kite won championships too.

So I'm blined by Marbury's 20 and 8 and you can't see that the coach needs to be fired because he bases his startign line-up by where a person grew up?

Q gets hot he gets benched.........Pat Garrity gets hot they call 3 straight plays for him. Channing scored how many 20 point games before he got his first start?

You are just a media slave. Simple and plain.


there is no better coach out there to teach our young players.
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12/15/2005  6:24 PM
What's the point of having a PG who can set up offense when no one on the team can shoot? juan dixon would be a terrible fit because the guy is a chucker and plays absolutely no defense. I forgot what team the Wizards traded him to but I remember reading that they hate his guts there. David Wesley is not even good enough for the Rockets he's shot. The knock on Jefferies is he can't shoot. I'm sure he's a little better than Ariza but we won't be improving much with him at SF because we'll still lack a shooter.

We can use Mike Miller, Wally or even a guy like Jon Barry. Bobby Jackson would be nice too. A perimeter player who plays defense would be nice too.

Atkins would be nice little addition since he can shoot. Don't know how well he can run an offense though. He's a decent backup guard. We need a real PG Earl Watson might be our best bet and we need real SG not an undersized one.

Putting all the blame on Larry as most are doing is obsurd. I fault the players more than anyone. Other than trading for Marbury, it's not Isiah's fault he was trying to build an uptempo team but Larry became available. He had to get Larry. Now it's up to Isiah to somehow fix this mess. Get a true franchise player/leader in here and guys who play defense, play smart and shoot the ball.
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12/15/2005  6:25 PM
Posted by McK1:

Kwame Brown and Fred Jones

if LA needs a big expiring to complete an Artest deal:

Odom AD to Indy

Artest Q Croshere to LA

Brown Fred Jones Bender to NY

[Edited by - McK1 on 12-15-2005 4:30 PM]

And you want to fire Isiah for his moves.
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12/15/2005  6:25 PM
calm down enyspree, geez I haven't seen you this amped in years man, since your days of fighting with the iceman..

anyway, guys like Andre miller and Kenyon martin are ideal, someone proposed a trade to bring in miller and kenyon, but the key is that kenyon plays the Pf position, so what do you do with frye? you are not going to pay kenyon max money to be a backup, and kenyon has a huge deal...

You hate jared jeffries but he is a good solid all around athlete, the kind that LB would love, he would fit in nicely...
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12/15/2005  6:25 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by Knight:
Posted by EnySpree:

No one has answered my question with any intelligence.

I want to know what will it take to get the King of coaching Larry Brown to come up with a game plan, starting line-up and rotation. What will it take to figure out what the strengths of his players are?

Tell me.........if you can't then I want to organize a protest of Larry Brown......I'm so dead serious about that.

The strengths of his players are loserness, pussiness, and retardedness--he is getting the most out of them, trust me. Find players who aren't those things and he'll play to their strengths as well. You want names? Billups, Rip, Prince, Sheed, and Big Ben. There you go.

[Edited by - Knight on 12-15-2005 6:13 PM]


So if our players are all of this then who should we get? Trade our roster for Detroit's roster?

No one has answered the question yet. Who the hell do the Knicks trade and for who will make Larry Brown all of a sudeen figure out a starting line-up, rotation and plan of attack?

One plan of attack that Larry has come up with is called "defense" so maybe we can get guys who have some familiarity with that concept.
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12/15/2005  6:29 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

What's the point of having a PG who can set up offense when no one on the team can shoot? juan dixon would be a terrible fit because the guy is a chucker and plays absolutely no defense. I forgot what team the Wizards traded him to but I remember reading that they hate his guts there. David Wesley is not even good enough for the Rockets he's shot. The knock on Jefferies is he can't shoot. I'm sure he's a little better than Ariza but we won't be improving much with him at SF because we'll still lack a shooter.

We can use Mike Miller, Wally or even a guy like Jon Barry. Bobby Jackson would be nice too. A perimeter player who plays defense would be nice too.

Atkins would be nice little addition since he can shoot. Don't know how well he can run an offense though. He's a decent backup guard. We need a real PG Earl Watson might be our best bet and we need real SG not an undersized one.

Putting all the blame on Larry as most are doing is obsurd. I fault the players more than anyone. Other than trading for Marbury, it's not Isiah's fault he was trying to build an uptempo team but Larry became available. He had to get Larry. Now it's up to Isiah to somehow fix this mess. Get a true franchise player/leader in here and guys who play defense, play smart and shoot the ball.

Respect Guns. Leave it to a regular to at least make sense and add some intelligence to the thread.
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12/15/2005  6:31 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by McK1:

Kwame Brown and Fred Jones

if LA needs a big expiring to complete an Artest deal:

Odom AD to Indy

Artest Q Croshere to LA

Brown Fred Jones Bender to NY

[Edited by - McK1 on 12-15-2005 4:30 PM]

And you want to fire Isiah for his moves.

who on NY is a better post defender than Kwame Brown?

who on NY is a better perimeter defender than Jones?

Kwame has a 3 yr deal, Jones is still playing on his rookie contract.

but lemme guess, you are still waiting for isiah to convince Kobe to come play for the MLE and AD and Penny for KG and Wally Z...



[Edited by - McK1 on 12-15-2005 6:31 PM]
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12/15/2005  6:32 PM
Posted by tkf:

calm down enyspree, geez I haven't seen you this amped in years man, since your days of fighting with the iceman..

Wow.....I forgot about those days. We used to go at it. Does Iceman still post anywhere? He was a maniac but he knew his stuff.

Hey Iceman where you at?
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12/15/2005  6:39 PM
Posted by Knight:
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by Knight:
Posted by EnySpree:

No one has answered my question with any intelligence.

I want to know what will it take to get the King of coaching Larry Brown to come up with a game plan, starting line-up and rotation. What will it take to figure out what the strengths of his players are?

Tell me.........if you can't then I want to organize a protest of Larry Brown......I'm so dead serious about that.

The strengths of his players are loserness, pussiness, and retardedness--he is getting the most out of them, trust me. Find players who aren't those things and he'll play to their strengths as well. You want names? Billups, Rip, Prince, Sheed, and Big Ben. There you go.

[Edited by - Knight on 12-15-2005 6:13 PM]


So if our players are all of this then who should we get? Trade our roster for Detroit's roster?

No one has answered the question yet. Who the hell do the Knicks trade and for who will make Larry Brown all of a sudeen figure out a starting line-up, rotation and plan of attack?

One plan of attack that Larry has come up with is called "defense" so maybe we can get guys who have some familiarity with that concept.

Like............who?

FYI.......You do not play basketball with the mentality that if we can't stop them we can't win. You have to attack on offense........yeah defense can start your offense but if you have no offensive strategy what is the point? Besides that concept means fast breaking and getting easy baskets.

You have guys playing crazy minutes and getting DNP's for no reason and starting cuz it's their hometown how can you win?
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12/15/2005  6:42 PM
Posted by EnySpree:



Respect Guns. Leave it to a regular to at least make sense and add some intelligence to the thread.

You know something. You disagree thats fine, but to say that theres no "intelligence" in this thread. That's a flat out diss. Just becuase you disagree doesnt mean people are not intellgient. I mean honestly, what the ****. I don't come here to get dissed by someone who thinks he knows everything, I come here to talk basketball, not to be insulted.

And another thing. I'm on this forum everyday since I joined, there hasn't been on day that I havent posted so check your ego at the door next time you log on.


[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-15-2005 6:44 PM]
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12/15/2005  6:43 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by McK1:

Kwame Brown and Fred Jones

if LA needs a big expiring to complete an Artest deal:

Odom AD to Indy

Artest Q Croshere to LA

Brown Fred Jones Bender to NY

[Edited by - McK1 on 12-15-2005 4:30 PM]

And you want to fire Isiah for his moves.

who on NY is a better post defender than Kwame Brown?

who on NY is a better perimeter defender than Jones?

Kwame has a 3 yr deal, Jones is still playing on his rookie contract.

but lemme guess, you are still waiting for isiah to convince Kobe to come play for the MLE and AD and Penny for KG and Wally Z...



[Edited by - McK1 on 12-15-2005 6:31 PM]

McK1.........step away from the computer. Climb to the roof of the highest building and jump.
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12/15/2005  6:46 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by McK1:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by McK1:

Kwame Brown and Fred Jones

if LA needs a big expiring to complete an Artest deal:

Odom AD to Indy

Artest Q Croshere to LA

Brown Fred Jones Bender to NY

[Edited by - McK1 on 12-15-2005 4:30 PM]

And you want to fire Isiah for his moves.

who on NY is a better post defender than Kwame Brown?

who on NY is a better perimeter defender than Jones?

Kwame has a 3 yr deal, Jones is still playing on his rookie contract.

but lemme guess, you are still waiting for isiah to convince Kobe to come play for the MLE and AD and Penny for KG and Wally Z...



[Edited by - McK1 on 12-15-2005 6:31 PM]

McK1.........step away from the computer. Climb to the roof of the highest building and jump.


only if you promise to wait there at the bottom to break my fall


[Edited by - McK1 on 12-15-2005 6:46 PM]
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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12/15/2005  6:46 PM
I would love to get Mike Bibby. there's a PG who would flourish under Larry Brown. Just as we were comparing him to Marbury the other day he wins the game for Sacramento. The guy hits big shot after big shot, has size and plays tough defense. It's too bad no one wants our guys because they are so severely overpaid so we have to settle for the watson and atkins of the world
Who can we get to make LArry happy and appease the masses?

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