Posted by McK1:

I have presented facts, you responded with some half-cocked stat sheet scenario about a Marbury Allen Lewis trio.

Seattle doesn't make that trade. Ridnour is a distributor who gets guys the ball where they are most effective. steph is a ball hog who primarily passes when the option for himself to score isn't there.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by McK1:

I have presented facts, you responded with some half-cocked stat sheet scenario about a Marbury Allen Lewis trio.

Seattle doesn't make that trade. Ridnour is a distributor who gets guys the ball where they are most effective. steph is a ball hog who primarily passes when the option for himself to score isn't there.

How's this for facts: Seattle has the worst defense in the league by any standard. Ridnour is a big part of why they suck on defense.

going by our friends at 82games.com:

Ridnour is right at the league average for PER on offense at PG, his PER is 15.3. Unfortunately, he can't defend to save his soul, he allows his man a PER of 20.5. Seattle has the worst team defense in the entire NBA. By a lot. In terms of both PPG and efficiency.
http://www.82games.com/0506/05SEA1C.HTM

Marbury has a PER of 15.7 on offense at the PG, probably because he is playing the LB way when he plays there. But he has a PER of 25.7 when he slides over to SG, showing his scoring talents.

On defense, Steph has been a revelation this year, allowing his man a PER of 13.8 at the PG, and a PER of 10.2 at the SG. The Knicks have the 15th best defense in the league in terms of ppg and efficiency, and Marbury is a big part of that.
http://www.82games.com/0506/05NYK2C.HTM

See, sometimes it's fun to make a bold statement, but if you can't back it up, it's just a statement.


[Edited by - crzymdups on 12-05-2005 2:17 PM]

Posted by McK1:

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by McK1:

I have presented facts, you responded with some half-cocked stat sheet scenario about a Marbury Allen Lewis trio.

Seattle doesn't make that trade. Ridnour is a distributor who gets guys the ball where they are most effective. steph is a ball hog who primarily passes when the option for himself to score isn't there.

How's this for facts: Seattle has the worst defense in the league by any standard. Ridnour is a big part of why they suck on defense.

going by our friends at 82games.com:

Ridnour is right at the league average for PER on offense at PG, his PER is 15.3. Unfortunately, he can't defend to save his soul, he allows his man a PER of 20.5. Seattle has the worst team defense in the entire NBA. By a lot. In terms of both PPG and efficiency.
http://www.82games.com/0506/05SEA1C.HTM

Marbury has a PER of 15.7 on offense at the PG, probably because he is playing the LB way when he plays there. But he has a PER of 25.7 when he slides over to SG, showing his scoring talents.

On defense, Steph has been a revelation this year, allowing his man a PER of 13.8 at the PG, and a PER of 10.2 at the SG. The Knicks have the 15th best defense in the league in terms of ppg and efficiency, and Marbury is a big part of that.
http://www.82games.com/0506/05NYK2C.HTM

See, sometimes it's fun to make a bold statement, but if you can't back it up, it's just a statement.


[Edited by - crzymdups on 12-05-2005 2:17 PM]

Seattle plays up and down. Giving up a ton of points is apart of it. Ridnour isn't going to put your fantasy team over the top but he will help your NBA team win. Seattle is 8-8 and they have played a much tougher schedule.

Posted by McK1:

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by McK1:

I have presented facts, you responded with some half-cocked stat sheet scenario about a Marbury Allen Lewis trio.

Seattle doesn't make that trade. Ridnour is a distributor who gets guys the ball where they are most effective. steph is a ball hog who primarily passes when the option for himself to score isn't there.

How's this for facts: Seattle has the worst defense in the league by any standard. Ridnour is a big part of why they suck on defense.

going by our friends at 82games.com:

Ridnour is right at the league average for PER on offense at PG, his PER is 15.3. Unfortunately, he can't defend to save his soul, he allows his man a PER of 20.5. Seattle has the worst team defense in the entire NBA. By a lot. In terms of both PPG and efficiency.
http://www.82games.com/0506/05SEA1C.HTM

Marbury has a PER of 15.7 on offense at the PG, probably because he is playing the LB way when he plays there. But he has a PER of 25.7 when he slides over to SG, showing his scoring talents.

On defense, Steph has been a revelation this year, allowing his man a PER of 13.8 at the PG, and a PER of 10.2 at the SG. The Knicks have the 15th best defense in the league in terms of ppg and efficiency, and Marbury is a big part of that.
http://www.82games.com/0506/05NYK2C.HTM

See, sometimes it's fun to make a bold statement, but if you can't back it up, it's just a statement.


[Edited by - crzymdups on 12-05-2005 2:17 PM]

Seattle plays up and down. Giving up a ton of points is apart of it. Ridnour isn't going to put your fantasy team over the top but he will help your NBA team win. Seattle is 8-8 and they have played a much tougher schedule.

Posted by McK1:


Seattle plays up and down. Giving up a ton of points is apart of it. Ridnour isn't going to put your fantasy team over the top but he will help your NBA team win. Seattle is 8-8 and they have played a much tougher schedule.

Posted by McK1:

I watch Seaattle gamesjudging what a player does soloely by a stat sheet, which are the basis of most of the pro-steph arguments, shows a large contingency don't

Posted by McK1:

I watch Seaattle games

judging what a player does soloely by a stat sheet, which are the basis of most of the pro-steph arguments, shows a large contingency don't