Posted by bobs3304:

No offense, and this is a solid post, but Rasheed just has way more of an impact on a game than Frye has right now.

That could change, but stats don't tell the whole story - not by a longshot.

Defensively, sure. There currently aren't any readily available stats we could use to compare their defensive impacts, but I'll grant that Rasheed is the superior defender. A better question is, how does Rasheed's rookie year compare to Frye's on D so far? I don't know. The best way to judge would be to use adjusted +/- numbers, but those aren't available for 1996.

Other than D? Frye's PER is just plain better than Rasheed's, by a fairly large margin no less, and PER is more or less a complete summary of everything that is measured in a box score-- how much does the player contribute with made shots, boards, steals etc., and much does he hurt you by missing shots, turning it over, etc. It is not really up for argument that in terms of individual achievements, Frye's current level of production is better than anything Rasheed has done in his career.

What is left up in the air a bit is what impact these players have overall on their teams' offensive effectiveness. For instance, would having Rasheed on the floor open up more opportunities for teammates? The best way to measure this, again, would be adjusted +/- on the offensive end of the floor. We don't have those, so we'll just have to leave it an open question.

So judging a player's impact on overall team effectiveness, on both ends of the floor, is somewhat of a hazy proposition. What we can look at pretty clearly is effectiveness at the level of individual production, and at least on this level of analysis, we see Frye's play thus far being pretty clearly superior to Rasheed's at any point of his career.

I think his offensive games compares more to Garnett.

Garnett is really not that much of a post player, it took him a LONG time to devlop some post moves. He gets the majority of his points on mid range jumpers, turnarounds, offensive rebounds and running the floor.

Obviously Fyre is nowhere near the defensive player, ball handler, or passer that KG is, but the way he scores is very comprarable to KG.

Sheed on the other hand scores either in the lowpost, or he shoots the 3, hardly ever scores from midrange. Thats why I think comparing to KG (once again only for offensive production minus the passing and ball handling) is a better idea.

Get us the KG comparsion from KG's 22 years old season (his 4th?, I'm not sure) to see how that looks tom.