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PhilinLA
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11/23/2005  1:56 PM
By all means get him, but only if we keep Frye.
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11/23/2005  1:59 PM
Posted by martin:

I am guessing if Wally and Troy are coming this way the Wolves would want Craw, Jackie, Lee or Ariza and Nate too.
If they're dumping salary, they're not gonna want to give $50 mil to a question mark like Crawford. They might want one or more of the other players you listed, although I think the salaries would match without those players. I think Troy is included just to save Minn more money (possibly as a way of sweetening the deal *instead of* including a young player)
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11/23/2005  2:00 PM
what bothers me about getting KG is that I feel IT would be pinched into giving up all our expiring deals, frye, ariza and butler. and we would take back KG, and the absolute deadweight deals of Wally and Hudson who is useless IMO.....

At that point, I will join islefan as a knicks hater/detractor or whatever you refer to him as, if you think isle was bad, you haven't seen anything yet. especially if he makes a trade of that nature...
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11/23/2005  2:02 PM
At that point, I will join islefan
I'm not sure he'll join you, though! as a knicks hater/detractor or whatever you refer to him as. He was referring to a deal where we get Garnett as a steal even if we give up BOTH Frye and Curry.
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11/23/2005  2:02 PM
Posted by tkf:

if you think isle was bad, you haven't seen anything yet.
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11/23/2005  2:05 PM
Posted by tkf:

what bothers me about getting KG is that I feel IT would be pinched into giving up all our expiring deals, frye, ariza and butler. and we would take back KG, and the absolute deadweight deals of Wally and Hudson who is useless IMO.....

At that point, I will join islefan as a knicks hater/detractor or whatever you refer to him as, if you think isle was bad, you haven't seen anything yet. especially if he makes a trade of that nature...
If you really wanted to join that guy, you'd probably also have to suffer some sort of head injury.

Zeke is using money leverage and not the young players in this play. Frye's not going anywhere.

http://amonthhoffundays.blogspot.com/ We got a ringer.
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11/23/2005  2:06 PM
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Posted by efw:

Of course. but the issue was whether to take the risk by giving up Frye.

Who in their right mind wouldn't take Garnett for AD+Penny?

Layden was very adapt at getting us Starphuched.

He bought us Dice.

He was the main architect in bring us Marbury.

YOu take on 120 million and you can't say for sure we are top caliber team? Then we should not do it!

Must give up either Lee or Reezy. Perhaps Nate.

Another question, if you keep frye, when and where does he play?


Layden?

Layden would insist on Kandi (with a new 5 year extension tossed into the mix!).
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11/23/2005  2:13 PM
In regards to KG, I would advocate any trade that gets us Garnett w/o us giving up Curry or Frye. If that means we give up Butler, Ariza, Nate, Lee, expirings, and any picks that we still have left, then that is fine with me. However, I do think that it would be very difficult for Minny to do the trade w/o getting either of those 2 bigs (Curry, Frye) in return.
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11/23/2005  2:16 PM
What about giving up Curry and Lee along with Penny and AD?
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11/23/2005  2:24 PM
Posted by s3231:

In regards to KG, I would advocate any trade that gets us Garnett w/o us giving up Curry or Frye. If that means we give up Butler, Ariza, Nate, Lee, expirings, and any picks that we still have left, then that is fine with me. However, I do think that it would be very difficult for Minny to do the trade w/o getting either of those 2 bigs (Curry, Frye) in return.


They would only want Frye because of his small contract, but I am with you. I think people here, as well as Isiah are clear that Frye needs to stay if it is at all possible. I believe it is possible. I don;t think a rookie like Frye will make the Minny fans forgive their franchise. KG is KG. They should be upset that Kevin McHale was never skilled or inteligent enough to put a decent squad around KG for all of those years.
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11/23/2005  2:26 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

I think Larry Brown is the key to this. He is the one coach that could make us a winner with KG, Stephon and Curry. Thats if we get KG. I dont think that is possible. Its just too good to be true.


I agree. Larry brown is the key to this. How could a team coached by Larry Brown with players like Garnett, Marbury, Curry and some other good players not be a contender!
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11/23/2005  2:27 PM
Posted by MaulingandAppalling:

What about giving up Curry and Lee along with Penny and AD?


Curry makes alot of money so they wont want him.
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11/23/2005  2:27 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by Silverfuel:

I think Larry Brown is the key to this. He is the one coach that could make us a winner with KG, Stephon and Curry. Thats if we get KG. I dont think that is possible. Its just too good to be true.


I agree. Larry brown is the key to this. How could a team coached by Larry Brown with players like Garnett, Marbury, Curry and some other good players not be a contender!
Its impossible.
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11/23/2005  2:29 PM
I can already see it... Frye starts today picks up 2 quick fouls and is only able to play 20mins and people will be beggin for KG
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11/23/2005  2:40 PM
The possibility of getting KG is just awesome. If The Wolves want the money to start over then the Knicks are the team to call.....Knicks could even slide over a couple promising rookies.

The team I'm most afraid of is the Bulls. They got Tim Thomas thanks to us and and they have Nocioni and Deng to dangle along with Sweetney, Songaila(sp?), Harrington, Malik Allen......did I miss someone?

If that is the best deal they can get then the Knicks realistically have a shot.....especially if they want to do KG a favor and send him to the team he wants to go to (hopefully it will be NY).

KG wants to win you can tell he kills himself everytime they lose. I know he uses the "F" word just as much as I do. He stays in awesome shape. He doesn't look like he has gained a single pound since he became pro.
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11/23/2005  2:40 PM
I say give them Ariza (who is a ****ing joke when it comes to wanting to get better, look at Fryes progress the past few months in the gym, kid didn't get better at all) Nate Robinson, Jackie Butler, and AD and Penny if they don't take it too bad.......

That is not a lot to give up at all, I want to hold onto Frye and Lee Minnesota is going nowhere, and would do themselves right if they got rid of half the team to make a play for a couple of free agents and get some players this spring in the draft..
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11/23/2005  2:41 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

I can already see it... Frye starts today picks up 2 quick fouls and is only able to play 20mins and people will be beggin for KG

AMEN !!!!
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11/23/2005  2:46 PM
And in those 20 minutes, he puts up another 20 points, 7 rebounds, 1 block on 55% shooting.
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11/23/2005  2:51 PM
Some of you guys act like NY's the only team interested KG... He'll probably go to some other team, go through a rennaissance, and the same folks will sulk about how NY should've jumped when they had the chance.
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11/23/2005  2:53 PM
Posted by MS:

I say give them Ariza (who is a ****ing joke when it comes to wanting to get better, look at Fryes progress the past few months in the gym, kid didn't get better at all) Nate Robinson, Jackie Butler, and AD and Penny if they don't take it too bad.......

That is not a lot to give up at all, I want to hold onto Frye and Lee Minnesota is going nowhere, and would do themselves right if they got rid of half the team to make a play for a couple of free agents and get some players this spring in the draft..


Sounds good to me.....Larry Brown has been giving Ariza early praise and I know he can't stand him. I'd send off Nate too but I'm just afraid he finally gets his highlight dunk at the garden....but on another team......that would hurt so bad.

KG, Wally and Troy if they are healthy.......that equals missing pieces to me.
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