Posted by BasketballJones:

Well, here's someone predicting Frye will be a 12 and 8 player:

gunsnewing
I honestly think Bynum could be an 18 & 10 Center 3-5yrs down the line and a key contributor to the frontcourt in the meantime. That warrants being the #8 pick in my book unless he goes #3 to Portland! Frye averaging 12 & 8 three years from now at best doesn't

See thread: http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=9865

Here's someone predicting 12 & 6:

BigSm00th
I think Frye will be a poor man's Camby, a guy who will give you 12 points, 6 rebounds, and 2 blocks. Not somebody I'd want with the 8th pick, with lottery I look for a mix of a high ceiling and guaranteed results. I think Frye's ceiling is pretty low, as you pointed out, but I'd take him over a host of big man, like Taft, the foreign guys, and that clown from GT.

See thread: http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=9833

I gotta get ready for Turkey day so I don't have time to look for more, but I seem to recall there was a lot more of this kind of talk around draft time. I wish it were easier to track down the things that people said here in the past.

[Edited by - BASKETBALLJONES on 11-23-2005 1:37 PM]

Jones, Guns predicted that before the season, LONG before Channing ever stepped on an NBA court...

also who said Frye couldnt score? Or become a 20/8 player?

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by BasketballJones:

Well, here's someone predicting Frye will be a 12 and 8 player:

gunsnewing
I honestly think Bynum could be an 18 & 10 Center 3-5yrs down the line and a key contributor to the frontcourt in the meantime. That warrants being the #8 pick in my book unless he goes #3 to Portland! Frye averaging 12 & 8 three years from now at best doesn't

See thread: http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=9865

Here's someone predicting 12 & 6:

BigSm00th
I think Frye will be a poor man's Camby, a guy who will give you 12 points, 6 rebounds, and 2 blocks. Not somebody I'd want with the 8th pick, with lottery I look for a mix of a high ceiling and guaranteed results. I think Frye's ceiling is pretty low, as you pointed out, but I'd take him over a host of big man, like Taft, the foreign guys, and that clown from GT.

See thread: http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=9833

I gotta get ready for Turkey day so I don't have time to look for more, but I seem to recall there was a lot more of this kind of talk around draft time. I wish it were easier to track down the things that people said here in the past.

[Edited by - BASKETBALLJONES on 11-23-2005 1:37 PM]

Jones, Guns predicted that before the season, LONG before Channing ever stepped on an NBA court...

Posted by efw:

This is somewhat tangential, because I know we're not just talking about Frye, but it bears mentioning. Arizona products are indeed somewhat hidden by the system. They mostly all end up doing well in the NBA.

Some standouts:
Gilbert Arenas
Mike Bibby
Richard Jefferson
Andre Iguodola
Sean Elliot
Steve Kerr

A lot of these players wouldn't have been drafted out of high-school. Andre especially worked hard on his game and I would say he still has tremendous upside. Same with Jefferson, he came in as a dunker. He worked to realize his potential. Arenas as we all know came from the depths of the second round.

When talking about Frye, why should his "potential" be punished because he spent four years at a great program working on his jumper to the point where he gives us 3 20 point games in a row, and shoots almost 50% from the field.

I think people sometimes confuse athletic potential with basketball potential. I'd rather have someone with a higher degree of the latter than the former.

Posted by PhilinLA:

Once Frye adds the "3" to his repetoire, he's gonna be impossible to defend. And he will add the 3.

Posted by efw:

So what if that list is all guards? My point is that players that have gone to college, in this case Arizona, can improve tremendously once they get to the pros. It was a statement to contradict the bogus belief that 4 year college players can't improve.

And you're comparing Frye to Loren Woods? Woods was damn late second round pick. sheesh. He's never come close to a 20 point game in the pros. Frye's had 3 in a row.

Maybe you want to go back and read my post again EFW. I said they were comparable IN COLLEGE and that Channing is already far superious but it goes AGAINST what BasketballJones was saying that Arizona players always do better in the pros. Why? Becuase theres nevever been a good Arizona Grad big man in the pros... until now and we have him. I was makinga point to say that most Arizona GUARDS are better in the NBA not big man. It's fact.

It's funny, this is exactly how most people on this board get "labeled" as like and disliking certain players, becuase most of the time people don't take the time to read posts thoroughly. I'm a HUGE Frye supporter. End. Of. Story.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 11-23-2005 5:48 PM]

BBJones... you got it wrong. While those guys predicted modest production from Frye none of them said he couldnt be a 20/8 player.

. That warrants being the #8 pick in my book unless he goes #3 to Portland! Frye averaging 12 & 8 three years from now at best doesn't