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djsunyc
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11/22/2005  11:16 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:

He threw a towel in some teammates face during one timeout in a fraking playoff game!

it was in sabonis' face...but to his defense, it was his way of showing leadership


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11/22/2005  11:24 AM
why must we always go after everyone else's trash!!!!
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11/22/2005  11:27 AM
Malik Rose must go. I don't care what any of you say, he MUST go. We have Mo T, Frye amd Lee, we are good at the PF. Rose is not a SF, not a good one at least, and Ruben is good all around player. Good defense and he crashes the boards. Plus he can play the 2 as well, or guard 2's. Make it happen, Portland would love to get a character guy like Rose to take the place of Ruben. Lets go, Zeke, get on the horn.
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11/22/2005  12:31 PM
i was thinking that is Malik Rose could lose 20lbs he would be much more effective as a SF, but to look for that now, would be like to expect Frederic Weiss to start playing basketball like Sabonis did before he retired

I would endorse Ruben Patterson for Malik Rose though
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11/22/2005  12:36 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Killa4luv:

He threw a towel in some teammates face during one timeout in a fraking playoff game!

it was in sabonis' face...but to his defense, it was his way of showing leadership

Exactly, I mean are you going to kill Ewing and Oakley for literally beating up John Starks in a playoff game (93 playoffs vs. Indiana after Starks headbutts Miller). Or Jordan for getting into Horace Grant's face during the Piston series in 91. Those are different then say Jason Kidd and Mash fighting over Toni Braxton.

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11/22/2005  12:46 PM
Sheed was one of the guys that threw a ball at Reuben Bomjtche (sp?) so hard it messed up his back and put him on the IR.
It was just a "prank"
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11/22/2005  1:41 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

Do we think getting both miles AND ruben makes sense?

I dunno...I just don't know.

i agree, i dont think these are the guys we should be looking for. i'd rather stand pat than add these underachievers.
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11/22/2005  2:53 PM
No thanks. This guy has too many problems.

From the article on Yahoo:
In 2001, Patterson pleaded guilty in Washington state to an attempted rape charge for allegedly forcing his children's 24-year-old nanny to perform a sex act. Patterson had to register as a sex offender in Oregon and was suspended for the first five games of the following season by the NBA.

In February 2001, he was convicted of misdemeanor assault for attacking a man who scratched his car outside a Cleveland night club.

In November 2002, he was arrested on felony domestic abuse charges. His wife, Shannon Patterson, later dropped the charges, but the couple divorced.

[Edited by - BASKETBALLJONES on 11-22-2005 2:53 PM]
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11/22/2005  3:10 PM
Yep, I'll take a pass on Ruben. If we're going to get a headcase, make it a good one (more than a role player, even if it's a good role player) with a future. Otherwise I don't like how the costs shake out compared to the benefits.
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11/22/2005  3:12 PM
like Miles. A headcase with upside
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11/22/2005  3:49 PM
I forget, why would we rather patterson over Rose? Rose has finally found his nitch and it's as a gritty SF and not a undersized PF.

Looking at what's best for the knicks...I think rose is 1 year older, but with patterson getting 20 minutes a game (5 more than Rose) he's mustering 1.5 fewer rebounds...

At this point, and considering Rose's slow start, he's a better play than patterson (even if you hate the guy).

If we attempt to ignore the musical lineups that brown was playing for the first 6 games and go with what looks to be his lineup and minute distribution (barring foul trouble), over the last 5 games where the knicks went 3 - 2, Rose has put up 4/6, while not spectacular by any stretch of the imagination, watching the games, he's playing defense. Dare I say as well as patterson.

Looked at Fishy's link and Rose still keeps us in games, and you have to admit, he's hitting that baseline jumper now.

Also, he's got a ring and he's a model citizen.

I say we don't need 'em.

Thoughts?

[Edited by - rvhoss on 11-22-2005 3:59 PM]
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11/22/2005  4:44 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

I forget, why would we rather patterson over Rose? Rose has finally found his nitch and it's as a gritty SF and not a undersized PF.

Looking at what's best for the knicks...I think rose is 1 year older, but with patterson getting 20 minutes a game (5 more than Rose) he's mustering 1.5 fewer rebounds...

At this point, and considering Rose's slow start, he's a better play than patterson (even if you hate the guy).

If we attempt to ignore the musical lineups that brown was playing for the first 6 games and go with what looks to be his lineup and minute distribution (barring foul trouble), over the last 5 games where the knicks went 3 - 2, Rose has put up 4/6, while not spectacular by any stretch of the imagination, watching the games, he's playing defense. Dare I say as well as patterson.

Looked at Fishy's link and Rose still keeps us in games, and you have to admit, he's hitting that baseline jumper now.

Also, he's got a ring and he's a model citizen.

I say we don't need 'em.

Thoughts?

[Edited by - rvhoss on 11-22-2005 3:59 PM]


I say perfect post RV. No need for Paterson, he's not going to make or break the Knicks, plus he's a bonafide headcase. Yeah yeah, Rasheed left Portland and isn't a headcase but Rasheed is a much better play and a player you have to take a chance on. I'll keep my distance from Ruben, what this team needs much more is a true PG, I'd rather save our chips for that.
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11/22/2005  8:05 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

No thanks. This guy has too many problems.

From the article on Yahoo:
In 2001, Patterson pleaded guilty in Washington state to an attempted rape charge for allegedly forcing his children's 24-year-old nanny to perform a sex act. Patterson had to register as a sex offender in Oregon and was suspended for the first five games of the following season by the NBA.

In February 2001, he was convicted of misdemeanor assault for attacking a man who scratched his car outside a Cleveland night club.

In November 2002, he was arrested on felony domestic abuse charges. His wife, Shannon Patterson, later dropped the charges, but the couple divorced.

[Edited by - BASKETBALLJONES on 11-22-2005 2:53 PM]

Hey man this coulda happened to anybody!
Oh, wait, does that say rape? Um. Just keep him away from the knicks city dancers and I'd be glad to have him here. He wants to play and wants to win, and hes a good player.
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