Posted by TheloniusMonk:

People have gone from 'Frye has bust written all over him' during the summer to this. I'm just happy we got the guy. The main thing is going to be how he adjusts to how teams will soon adjust to him. That will be the most interesting part to watch this season.

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by Bonn1997:


No, you just read something (actually a lot of things) into my post that I never put in it. I never claimed that Frye would definitely turnout to be better than Bogut.

What exactly were you claiming? Many people who give Isiah heat for that comment probably still do. I do. Frye is not better than Bogut. He's very good, but Isiah would not have drafted him no. 1.

Posted by tkf:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Rookie Rankings Frye is #2!!!!! Bogut who?

Remember all the Heat Briggs et al. gave Isiah for his comment about Frye being the best big man in this year's draft? I guess nba.com agrees with Isiah right now.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-21-2005 1:39 PM]

Yo Bonnie, enough of the bashing on BRIGGS party. It's annoying and played. Come up with even a tenth of the orginal content as he had and we would all be shocked. Just cut it out. Thanks.

hey martin, I would like to ask, how fair is that?

we know bonnie is bonnie and briggs is well briggs, but lets be honest, briggs plastered these boards with about 100 anti fyre post: we should of taken bynum, or fye is a mess, or frye is soft, or bynum is a beast, and the list goes on and on, so of course when frye is doing well most will look back to the 100 or so post( most of which were bordering obnoxious) from briggs because it stands out. Maybe you know bonni better than me, but it didn't seem like a bash post, heck briggs was right about some of the talent he talked about including nate robinson, and I think he got kudos for that, none of us saw that comming... Just my humble opinion.....

Posted by codeunknown:

Isiah's comment was more than an evaluation of Frye, however - it was essentially a head-to-head comparison with Bogut. Frye still clearly loses that head-to-head at this point.

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Bonn you can throw my name into the Frye ring. Before draft night I was vehemently against drafting Frye.

LOL! I remember that. I still have all of our reactions on tape.

Posted by martin:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Rookie Rankings Frye is #2!!!!! Bogut who?

Remember all the Heat Briggs et al. gave Isiah for his comment about Frye being the best big man in this year's draft? I guess nba.com agrees with Isiah right now.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-21-2005 1:39 PM]

Yo Bonnie, enough of the bashing on BRIGGS party. It's annoying and played. Come up with even a tenth of the orginal content as he had and we would all be shocked. Just cut it out. Thanks.

hey martin, I would like to ask, how fair is that?

we know bonnie is bonnie and briggs is well briggs, but lets be honest, briggs plastered these boards with about 100 anti fyre post: we should of taken bynum, or fye is a mess, or frye is soft, or bynum is a beast, and the list goes on and on, so of course when frye is doing well most will look back to the 100 or so post( most of which were bordering obnoxious) from briggs because it stands out. Maybe you know bonni better than me, but it didn't seem like a bash post, heck briggs was right about some of the talent he talked about including nate robinson, and I think he got kudos for that, none of us saw that comming... Just my humble opinion.....

I want to make sure we are enjoying a place where we can come and talk Knicks foremost. The above is only a small sideswipe at BRIGGS but it sure is par for the course for a lot of posters.

It's nothing personal with you, Martin; this is a great web forum and you guys are great moderators. That said, do you really think it's just random that "a lot of posters" take shots at Briggs or do you think he does anything that elicits those shots? If you must defend Briggs and warn everyone who takes shots at him, fine. Maybe you can at least do it without personally attacking the poster you're warning. (Sorry but I don't know what else to call it when you say "Come up with even a tenth of the orginal content as he had and we would all be shocked.")

he's most of the time rude and elitest; he rarely posts in threads other than the ones he creates and NEVER factors other peoples opinions into his thinking...Martin, I know what you are saying 100% though because I moderate a VERY large forum myself and I know exactly where you are coming from. But I think to shove all the blame away from Briggs is very unjust.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Rookie Rankings Frye is #2!!!!! Bogut who?

Remember all the Heat Briggs et al. gave Isiah for his comment about Frye being the best big man in this year's draft? I guess nba.com agrees with Isiah right now.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-21-2005 1:39 PM]

Yo Bonnie, enough of the bashing on BRIGGS party. It's annoying and played. Come up with even a tenth of the orginal content as he had and we would all be shocked. Just cut it out. Thanks.

hey martin, I would like to ask, how fair is that?

we know bonnie is bonnie and briggs is well briggs, but lets be honest, briggs plastered these boards with about 100 anti fyre post: we should of taken bynum, or fye is a mess, or frye is soft, or bynum is a beast, and the list goes on and on, so of course when frye is doing well most will look back to the 100 or so post( most of which were bordering obnoxious) from briggs because it stands out. Maybe you know bonni better than me, but it didn't seem like a bash post, heck briggs was right about some of the talent he talked about including nate robinson, and I think he got kudos for that, none of us saw that comming... Just my humble opinion.....

I really do not care who breaks them off or who said what, but let's just get this fact straight. I did want to take Bynum, and of course my sentiment to any other player was negative because I wanted that player. But LONg before 99% of the people in this forum even knew who channing Frye was, I was arguing he was a middle round first pick. Most mock drafts had him early 2nd. I was never a Channing frye basher-sans the 7 foul first period game in the SL, but rather I have ben a channing frye supporter--just go back and read the posts. I think I said it the other day, and its still true for me, I wouldve taken Bynum, but Frye is sure no boobie prize. I still would trade bynum for Frye right now--if thats what you want to hear. But that doesnt mean that I dont believe Channing frye is a very good player. And I will add that because most do not know channing Frye's long term history, it makes opinion skewed. Channing EARNED a soft reputation, but if you did not know that, if you havent seen him play at AZ for 4 years, you can only go by what you see now.

I dissagree with that statement, a lot of us knew who frye was, he was off the radar somewhat, but come on man, the guy played for a high profile university, you are acting like he played for Bobs College of the blind in el paso texas. People knew he frye was.. The thing is that most people here don't discuss middle of the round projections when we are a lottery team. I will tell you this. Go to realgm, several guys were talking about taking fyre in the top 12... Go figure briggs...