Even penny for hill is questionable. Hill healthy helps us but the fact that he is a living injury does not.

ok all you "worse trade ever" people. See how easy it is to unload Marbury when it gets even worse later in the season, and it will. The guy is virtually untradeable with his money. Hill just happens to match the salaries, that is all. We are going nowhere the next two years anyhow. If Hill came here hurt, so what. Find out what Nate can do, and Crawford once and for all. Marbury isn't going to be happy with Brown anyhow, what games are you watching? Orlando would have the most exciting backcourt in the NBA with Marbury and Francis, they probably would want to do it. Do you want to wait four years more with Marbury?

Because he doesn't win. Brown doesn't like that he isn't a pure point, and he doesn't like Brown. And the marriage isn't going to work anytime soon. Read the writing on the wall. Marbury isn't a Larry type of player. He doesn't play enough defense and he is all about himself. Marbury or Brown will have to leave sooner or later. I am guessing Brown is staying (at least 2 years). Find somewhere you can trade Marbury if this is the scenario. No one would want him for the money he is making. He is not a top 5 player in the league and he is paid like one.

Posted by Killa4luv:

I hate to have to say this, but whoever would do this trade is a total idiot, in terms of basketball knowledge. This is probably thee dumbest trade I've ever seen on these boards, and it makes zero sense for either team.

I earnestly don't think i'm being a total idiot at all. The reason why I think this trade is good for the knicks is becuase, its going to be really hard to unload marbury's contract becuase his trade value is probably lower now than ever, struggling under brown's system. but it has to be done. there's just no way this organization will prosper with marbury's killer contract on the books for the next 3 years. unless marbury suddenly becomes as good as kobe bryant, steve nash, vince carter, or tim duncan, which seems more impossible now than ever, than it is financially imprudent to keep him since he earns even more money, for whatever reason, than all of these players do, and makes less of an impact. and also, the knicks don't really need marbury. Last night in the fourth quarter they did just fine without him. now I know some of you are going to say if we trade marbury where are we going to get a PG? good question, but I dont think its that big of an issue. just cut/buy out somebody on this roster and sign a pg. with the way marbury has been playing lately there may not even be an overall drop off in productivity if this happens. it's for these reasons that I think this trade is good for the knicks, even if grant hill can't play a single game. I know there's still a chance marbury can adapt to brown's system but from the way things have gone so far I doubt he will, and even if he does the financial savings of this trade, in my opinion at least, will outway the the benefit of having marbury, who's contract is worth 16.4 million, and ends in 2009, playing like chauncey billups, who only makes 5.9 million. see what what I mean? I know this trade in of itself wont put the knicks under the cap but I do beleive it is a necessary first step in eventually getting under the cap.


[Edited by - slimpack on 11-19-2005 12:40 PM]

Slim..
Wow, I don't see how this trade could benefit us at all...
You realize w/o Marbury we probably win 20 games?
When things are going bad it'sa knee jerk reaction to trade your best player, but it's a stupid reaction to give him away for nothing. And your solution? ...uhhh..sign some unspecified dude...yah great.
20/8 PGs aren't exactly out there for the taking. If we followed your philosophy we would blame and then give our best player away every year, and get worse and worse.

Thing is the contract won't put us under the cap. Why take grant Hill's for 2 years? If you're gonna dump him for nothing at least get an expiring contract. Also, we will win like 20 games. There is almost noone else besides Curry other teams really need to worry about. Channing is playing nicely but not exactly a high level threat. The rest like Craw, and Q don't scare anyone. Marbury is a guy you can't play straight up. Every sucessful team needs players like that. You can't win w/ just all role players and good citizens, which is whtat wetried during the Scott Layden era.