Posted by bobs3304:
Actually Blue, at SG I think Steph can easily put up 20-25 a night....within the flow of the offense (and that's whats most important).
At PG, his stats are sometimes considered "padded" b/c his assists in particular aren't in the flow of the offense. Marbury can't freelance like Nash and other PG's. If you watch him, it seems as if every play looks like a set play, even when maybe only half actually are.
Marbury's not really "comfortable" at PG. What I mean by that is that it's not his natural position, which he even remarked himself. Atleast before he was a SG playing PG, but now that LB is in town, there's no way Steph will dominate the offense like that. So the ony way to solve that --- move him to SG.
Well I agree that the lesser of evils would be with Steph at SG.
(As an aside, the Steph-love was so strong on realgm that I was immediately branded a hater the moment I proposed that a year or so ago there. That was before I felt in the the team mutinied around him and abandoned him after his "I'm the best" comments. Then I became a bona-fide hater, even in my own mind. But boy that hype from fans that Steph really was the best PG so strong just a year ago.)
But the point is that moving steph to SG is no guarantor of success, and I think the larger issue is Steph not getting the whole objective here, of running a structured offense designed for good looks for everyone, good decisions and winning ball. LB was on the money that Steph's best instincts have gotten no one anywhere. And while Steph scorched Kobe for 45 at their prior outing, it still resulted in a 10 point knick loss. Same result, but Steph got to feel better about it cause HE looked good. Steph looking good is not what LB is about.
The other point Larry was making is that 4 points from Steph was not in LB's plans. He wanted Steph to stay aggressive and be taking twice as many shot attempts as he did. He also said he put many more plays in for Steph than he ever did for Billups. Steph needs to use his offense as one tool in his kit to dissecting a defense. When Steph stops scoring that does not serve the offense either. The objective is to make Steph aggressive in a smart way, not in some personal showdown machismo way. Aggressive like a brain surgeon against cancer, not like a lumberjack in some mano-a-mano extreme sports competition.
So I think Steph needs to give LBs methods some time. I understand Steph is being intellectually challenged by this, to grasp the concept of getting his within a structured offense, to keep others involved, and to take a team first approach. Steph needs to develop a new instinct and intuition about all this and thats going to take time. But I think that all applies to either position on the court.
Smart ball is smart ball, and I bet you that after having served under Brown, Rip and Billups could switch positions on the floor tomorrow and adjust quicker to their new positions than Marbury. The reason being that they intellectually understand the game and roles each position serves. They'd understand what was expected of them and just need time for it to feel natural to them, to get into their bodies like a habit.
But I don't think Steph has that same intellectual understanding of team concept and roles yet. Nor does he seem to want to. Best I can tell he just wants to be put somewhere on the floor where he doesn't have to think and doesn't have to get it. Steph just wants to be Steph.
[Edited by - BlueSeats on 11-18-2005 03:24 AM]
11/18/2005 1:47 AM
