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oohah
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11/14/2005  12:33 AM
Kurt's averaging 9/5 as a starter on the Suns. He's half-way at the 18/10 Oohah prediction. He just needs 96 minute games!

Actually, since he is averaging 23.7 minutes per game he just needs to play the whole game.

Anyway, screw the prediction, I am more worried about my bet with Marv, there is no way KT can average 15 points without 35 minutes a game.

Truth is 9.5 points and 5.7 rebounds in 23.7 is not bad production, and is actually more points per minute than he got with the Knicks. Now if he could just get some minutes like he got with the Knicks, I'd be in business! Unfortunately (for me) that doesn't seem to be in the cards.

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11/14/2005  12:37 AM
Posted by oohah:
Kurt's averaging 9/5 as a starter on the Suns. He's half-way at the 18/10 Oohah prediction. He just needs 96 minute games!

Actually, since he is averaging 23.7 minutes per game he just needs to play the whole game.

Anyway, screw the prediction, I am more worried about my bet with Marv, there is no way KT can average 15 points without 35 minutes a game.

Truth is 9.5 points and 5.7 rebounds in 23.7 is not bad production, and is actually more points per minute than he got with the Knicks. Now if he could just get some minutes like he got with the Knicks, I'd be in business! Unfortunately (for me) that doesn't seem to be in the cards.

oohah


there's a reason he's only getting 23.7mins on a team with a depleted frontline. He is a role player and should've been given 23mins last year not 38.
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11/14/2005  12:40 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

i would've gladly moved KT for pick 21 and an ending contract. I think that waw fair value at a minimum for KT. But we took on Q-rich, a guy who has been just an awful % player, lacks a dribble drive, kind of a 2-3 tweener, who doesnt play tough D. Its like we got rid of one person who didnt fit for another one. It's a trade that sounds better than it was, not unlike almost every move Isiah has made unfortunately.

actually i've been very impressed with his D. he's been playing some lockdown. plus great hustle, gets back real quick, covers for others. you haven't been keying on his D at all?
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11/14/2005  12:43 AM
I like Q. You could see a little in the 1st and 4th quarters that Marbury and Q are starting to learn where to find each other on offense. Q's defense is okay, but he got burned by Peja the second Ariza left the game. Peja put it on the floor and drove by him. He didn't drive on Ariza all night.
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11/14/2005  12:44 AM
there's a reason he's only getting 23.7mins on a team with a depleted frontline. He is a role player and should've been given 23mins last year not 38.

Truth is, if he still played for the Knicks he would be getting 30+ minutes per game because there still isn't anybody to take the minutes from him.

oohah

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11/14/2005  12:44 AM
Posted by oohah:
Kurt's averaging 9/5 as a starter on the Suns. He's half-way at the 18/10 Oohah prediction. He just needs 96 minute games!

Actually, since he is averaging 23.7 minutes per game he just needs to play the whole game.

Anyway, screw the prediction, I am more worried about my bet with Marv, there is no way KT can average 15 points without 35 minutes a game.

Truth is 9.5 points and 5.7 rebounds in 23.7 is not bad production, and is actually more points per minute than he got with the Knicks. Now if he could just get some minutes like he got with the Knicks, I'd be in business! Unfortunately (for me) that doesn't seem to be in the cards.

oohah




for me? really oohah, you shouldn't have.
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11/14/2005  12:46 AM
Posted by oohah:
there's a reason he's only getting 23.7mins on a team with a depleted frontline. He is a role player and should've been given 23mins last year not 38.

Truth is, if he still played for the Knicks he would be getting 30+ minutes per game because there still isn't anybody to take the minutes from him.

oohah

Frye is averaging 10.5ppg and 6.5rpg in 19mpg. Lee is better than Kurt at this point. Heck, so is Mo Taylor.


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11/14/2005  12:50 AM
Frye is averaging 10.5ppg and 6.5rpg in 19mpg. Lee is better than Kurt at this point. Heck, so is Mo Taylor.

Taylor maybe now. Frye maybe soon. Lee? Not for a little while at least.

Marv, If you can find a cut like that at Tad's Steaks, it's all you!

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[Edited by - oohah on 11-14-2005 12:51 AM]
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11/14/2005  5:31 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

i would've gladly moved KT for pick 21 and an ending contract. I think that waw fair value at a minimum for KT. But we took on Q-rich, a guy who has been just an awful % player, lacks a dribble drive, kind of a 2-3 tweener, who doesnt play tough D. Its like we got rid of one person who didnt fit for another one. It's a trade that sounds better than it was, not unlike almost every move Isiah has made unfortunately.



omg, you were priasing qrich when we got him. your posts are becoming dido-esque
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11/14/2005  6:02 AM
We got good value for an aging vet with declining skills. We couldn't expect much more.
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11/14/2005  10:41 AM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by BRIGGS:

i would've gladly moved KT for pick 21 and an ending contract. I think that waw fair value at a minimum for KT. But we took on Q-rich, a guy who has been just an awful % player, lacks a dribble drive, kind of a 2-3 tweener, who doesnt play tough D. Its like we got rid of one person who didnt fit for another one. It's a trade that sounds better than it was, not unlike almost every move Isiah has made unfortunately.



omg, you were priasing qrich when we got him. your posts are becoming dido-esque
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11/14/2005  10:48 AM
Posted by Ira:

We got good value for an aging vet with declining skills. We couldn't expect much more.


That trade was a fraking steal, period. This thread is stoopid.

Frye is better than KT, right f.ucking now!!!!!!!!
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11/14/2005  10:48 AM
Q is still getting more boards than TT ever dreamed of and is playing solid team defense...what games are you watching?

I was hoping the naysayers would be a little less down on our team after a win (see Sim's AWESOME post), but it just seems until we trade for bynum, this team will forever be a bunch of losers.

It's funny, every other site is praising the KT move as his best move to date as a GM.

I guess they are all wrong.

Go Knicks.

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11/14/2005  10:52 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by Ira:

We got good value for an aging vet with declining skills. We couldn't expect much more.


That trade was a fraking steal, period. This thread is stoopid.
Hard to argue with that!
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11/14/2005  11:02 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by oohah:
Kurt's averaging 9/5 as a starter on the Suns. He's half-way at the 18/10 Oohah prediction. He just needs 96 minute games!

Actually, since he is averaging 23.7 minutes per game he just needs to play the whole game.

Anyway, screw the prediction, I am more worried about my bet with Marv, there is no way KT can average 15 points without 35 minutes a game.

Truth is 9.5 points and 5.7 rebounds in 23.7 is not bad production, and is actually more points per minute than he got with the Knicks. Now if he could just get some minutes like he got with the Knicks, I'd be in business! Unfortunately (for me) that doesn't seem to be in the cards.

oohah




for me? really oohah, you shouldn't have.


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11/14/2005  12:13 PM
Posted by jaydh:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

i would've gladly moved KT for pick 21 and an ending contract. I think that waw fair value at a minimum for KT. But we took on Q-rich, a guy who has been just an awful % player, lacks a dribble drive, kind of a 2-3 tweener, who doesnt play tough D. Its like we got rid of one person who didnt fit for another one. It's a trade that sounds better than it was, not unlike almost every move Isiah has made unfortunately.



omg, you were priasing qrich when we got him. your posts are becoming dido-esque

I like the trade in general, Im not a believer in Q_rich. I do not think he is a good % player
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