Posted by MS:
You ****ing people that defend Isiah our unreal, have you been watching whats going on?
Marbury is here to stay and is not going anywhere, he can't win nor make his teammates better, he has a close relationship with Isiah that has alienated his players, he is going to make over 60 million the next three years and is only going to get worse
Jamaal Crawford and Jerome Williams: He makes a terrible deal here to acquire a guard that is a tweener an in between that is selfish and has one of the worst shot selections in the NBA, he doesn't exchance any bad contracts and gives away expiring deals
Dealing Nazy: This move mad little sense especially since we could have got more value in return had we packaged him in the offseason, instead we acquire a pick that we could have bought anyway, and end up with Malik Rose who no one wants, but Isiah
Mo Taylor: Why on earth would you take back salary for a player that is out of shape and doesn't play defense?
Jerome James: This should blow everyones ****ing mind he serves no purpose, but he gets 30 million, Pucila was out there for less than two does more things well, but this guy just eats up space and dollars
Giving away draft choices: Why?
Are we better off than we were of course Layden was a simple man with no vision who got rid of everything that made the Knicks watchable, but Isiah has given the team no flexibility, none.......We do have a youthful core but there is no potential superstar, I like Ariza, Frye, Lee, Butler, and Nate but that team needs someone that has go to potential.....Curry may or not work out, but he has his money so there is no reason for him to assert himself, he was disliked in the bulls organization and plays the game for financial reasons not love so he is going to score in the post play no defense and enjoy his contract.....
Isiah has been a disaster and no other owner would allow such careless spending, and he has had the ability to do what he has done only because Dolan doesn't care about finances
I understand where you are coming from but here is one thing to consider. When Isiah traded for Marbury the Knicks had just come off of lots of years where they didn't matter, both in the basketball sense and in the filling-the-seats sense. Isiah HAD to do something to make his mark with the Knicks and get people interested again. From a financial standpoint, luxury tax included, trading for Penny and Marbury is still a windfall (I am guessing) for the Knicks/Cablevision organizaion. Now, Penny has been VERY disappointing as a player, and Marbury does have his flaws, no doubt about that, but you can't really argue with the simple fact that the talent level in the PHO trade was better for the Knicks.
The premise of your whole arguement is that Isiah has done a bad job because they don't have cap flexibility. True, but the Knicks as an organization would never allow themselves to get under the cap - because of the legnth of Houston's contract. They just won't, it would cost them too much real income from the Cablevision perspective. A note that they _may_ have forsaw the Hockey lockout.
We gotta throw away the cap flexibility arguement, just know way around it. Now, has Isiah made this team better? YES. Are Rose and Penny good quality players in return. NO. Does it really matter since what else you got in return make the team better? NO. Jerome James? Probably BIG mistake, but we gotta give that guy at least a half a year. Malik Rose trade? It's only speculation that the Knicks would have gotten more for Nazr now, plus they did get good draft picks. MoT? The guy is looking better, give him time too.
11/11/2005 1:25 PM
