no way...he's here to stay for this year for sure. If he can't help the knicks win and going to work for the knicks is no fun, then he may be ok with a trade to miami so that he can get his ring and shut up all the doubters, but I truly feel that marbury wants to win with the the knicks.

Any other way would be un coney island-like.

Posted by Silverfuel:

BTW: The time he forced a trade out of Minny was sheer stupidity on his part.

I agree.....he couldn't stand Minnesota. I know he'll look back on that and kick his own ass, that's if he isn't doing that already.

Anyway....I feel sad that Marbs could get traded. Leave it to Vescey to be the guy to start the fire. Things snow ball and the NY media added on to whatever ESPN will do with it is just crazy.

Rigth away KG and Marbs together makes sense but not for the Knicks. Minnesota don't have anything to trade.

Denver has nothing Aside from Nene and Watson and they don't match-up......I don't want Andre Miller....he is a poor mans Marbury.

Toronto has Mike James, and Jalen......I'm not thrilled with that but Mike James played well for Brown. Mike has good charisma too and can be clutch especially from the outside.

Marbs just has bad luck. No one likes him either....most want to see him fail. One of these days he'll hook up with a team and kick some serious ass.

Hey what about the Clippers? They got old man Sam. Maybe they would trade Maggette?

Posted by Nalod:

Think of the man hours put into defending Steph, Dissing him, dissing the media who dissed him, dissing the anti Isiah media, dissing the anti knicks media and that larry will move players.

And it might just be the media might have had it all more correct then we did.

Ahem, JUST the media Nalod? And who's we?

Posted by Marv:

hey can we please wait till "slightly" more that 4 games into a season before the self-congratulations?

Spoilsport

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by EnySpree:


Marbs just has bad luck. No one likes him either....most want to see him fail. One of these days he'll hook up with a team and kick some serious ass.

not bad luck. i am convinced that every coach he has had has misused his skillset. he is a shooting guard - no way around it. having him run the point kills the offense. his best attribute is his scoring ability and no coach has explored that. amazing.

Marbury didnt know he was SG either. He said last season that he was the best PG in the league. Its strange to blame the coaches.

Posted by mintyfreshness33:

look i didnt say it vescey did, so take it for what its worth.

Vescey: Knicks Look To Move Marbury
11th November, 2005 - 4:05 am
NY Post - Without citing any specific source, Peter Vescey says that Knicks' president Isiah Thomas and head coach Larry Brown have notified "certain teams ... with specific needs" that Stephon Marbury is available.

Vescey says the Knicks started the process about two weeks ago by putting out feelers in order to gauge interest.

The coach may not be entirely enamored with his star point guard's game and Brown’s may be the weightiest opinion at MSG these days.

"This is New York," Vescey writes, "where Thomas brought in Brown to save his job and [Brown] might wind up taking it."

Getting back equal value may be the tricky part but the Knicks may prefer to erase Marbury from the roster than worry about the particular talent swap they receive in return.

Vescey speculates on a return back to Minnesota for Marbury, possibly in exchange for Wally Szczerbiak. Miami is another potential destination mentioned by Vescey, with Jason Williams and Antoine Walker two pieces in the mix. Vescey also talks about Jalen Rose (but Marbury has two more remaining contract years than Rose, which may make such a deal unappealing to the Raptors’ management).

Vescey states that the Knicks' young gun rookies are untouchable for now




Hmmmm, i wouldnt mind that jason wiliams and antoine walker trade

This is all BS, Vescey is just trying to sell newspaper by suckering the poor vulnerable Knick fans into buying this crap about IT and LB wanting to trade Marbury, it's the media abusing the 1st amendment by writing this BS and printing it in the NY Post, they are never accountable for writing this kind of crap.

Vescey should be strung up by his nuts in the middle of Madison Square Garden's basketball court and apologize for writing such benign, putrid BS and disclose his sources at the the same time, and you'll find he has none except for the bottom of a Jack Daniel's bottle and a vile of crack!.

Really I think Marbs has some kind of black cloud following him around. I really enjoy watching him blow past his man and get to the basket with ease and a lot of his moves are entertaining. But the cloud that has also been following Abdur-Rahim his whole career is also hunting Marbs. I think he just got a bad karma. I don't know if he slapped some babies or cussed his mom's out when he was younger, but this dude just losses a lot. I would say let's just cut our losses and trade him and Hardaway for Jalen, Eric Willams and Aaron Willams. They need a point and we need a consistent scorer and a small forward who can play defense.

Vescey is a goddamned fool, as is anyone stupid enough to buy into his crap. He's catering to the bottom feeders; the knee-jerk reactors who only seek to hate on Stephon.

How is he going to question everything he has done after four games, while comparing to players who needed much more time than 4 games to get into the groove of LB's system.

Vescey's just another reporter who will have his foot in his mouth when Starbury and the Knicks gel and start racking up the W's.

Posted by Solace:

[quote]Posted by CTKnicksfan:

Look at what we gave up to get Marbury

2 1st Rd picks
2 Euro Prospects
~20mm expiring contracts (Dyess and Ward)
1 bad contract (eisley)

plus we took on an awful contract in Penny.

Think we could get a similar package NOW for Marbury? Not a chance. We'd be lucky to get half of the above. That's how much value he's lost in the past 2 years, even with a shorter, but still enormous contract.

As of now, we will have to take a big salary back to move Marbury (unless its to Atlanta for Harrington). We'd be fortunate to get even 1 future first rounder, or a kid with some potential. We should at least try to pawn off one of our longer useless contracts (Rose, JJ) as the "penny" component to any possible deal. I doubt though that any tGM, who would be taking a risk adding Marbury to their team, would go for that.

We gave up a hell of a lot for Marbury, yes. But that's done. Now we have him. If we're going to trade him, we better get something good, or at least get our pick back from the Bulls. We'd be a pretty awful team for 3+ years without Marbury (unless we're trading him for a better talent).


Id trade Marbury for Rose Calderon +rights to Ukic