Posted by islesfan:

From Today's NY Post - Peter Vecsey's column

For the time being, it appears, the young guys are off limits, odd since none of the acceptable building blocks will ever be mistaken for a foundation.

I hate when Vecsey steals my lines.

Is your first name "Peter" Isles?

Posted by islesfan:

Your building analogy doesn't make much sense but I'll play along.

Your story was missing a few points:

The foundation of the building is weak and will never support a building that was promised to reach such great heights.

The Foreman has a habit of using old construction materials, that are past their usefullness, instead of new materials that also happen to have a lot of questions as to their strength, durability and usefulness in terms of becoming cornerstones of the building.

The construction company has a lot of "no-show" employees, taking up a large chunk of the budgeted salaries with not much end in sight.

And most importantly, the architect, with a questionable history filled with failures, has wasted all of the company's resources in trying to get everybody to really believe that this wonderful building was really going to be put up. Now there's a half contructed building with a weak foundation that doesn't look like it will ever reach the heights that the architect promised.

Overcoming adversity is also in the blueprint. This is an on going process similar to other aspects of life.

My building scenario was not a direct analogy of team construction but just a little story of patience for fans to chill out.

Failure is in every blueprint of sucess. Like the stock market, the bears all have their day but swim against the tide over the longer time frame.

So Isles will only shine whent he team fails. When you get in line with the optomists, you will be bandwagon hopping.

you must be a joy to watch games with. Frown when the score? Is there a mrs. Isles? "Honey how is the game?" "we are losing again!", "oh, then your happy?" "yeah baby!"

ALso, things change. Just today even in this thread BOnnie is throwing me a bone, and Isles is the new GayRobot picking on the smallest of crumbs. Its better to be right then to forge ahead? The true cry of a GayRobot.

Isles, I have done my Isiah bashing, marb bashing, and if this Marb trade rumors ever pan out its more dissapointing than anything else. Its easy to pick apart whats wrong, but even easier to drink the fools cool aid.

I have been critical to those Kool aid intoxicated, the media bashers, and the Isiah worshippors, not for the hope they have, but that this all takes time to work itself out. Im on record as not being disappointed because I did not buy into the hype, but I wish I was wrong. I wish the team was off to a good start. But im not filled with glee about it.

My little story was to try to show folks whom are very disappointed that its a long term process and it COULD be ok.

At least nobody drove a 757 into my building!

I have no problem with your post but you might want to edit/delete the last sentence. Personally I prefer your Nazi memorabilia than that reference.

Buildings at times are know to crumble during construction, or are abandoned in the middle of construction, because a lack of funding and/or bad management, or just the fact that it was someone's way of showing a loss at tax season, you gotta have expenses to offset any profits you may be making somewhere else.

Posted by Bonn1997:

The foundation of the building is weak and will never support a building that was promised to reach such great heights.

Can you give some concrete examples of things you look for in a foundation that this team does not have?

a pure pg... but then again tony parker isnt a pure pg and the spurs seem to be doing ok. in that case cap space to sign a top tier free agent. however rumor has it that dolan has reached his spending limit so its possible that for the first time in like a decade the knicks will atempt to get under the cap.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Cap space? About 80% of championship teams were built while being over the cap. If that's the only thing the team doesn't have, we're in better shape long-term than I realized

What is this based on? Most teams that won championships played before there was a cap.

Also take note, most teams 50 mil over the cap and suck also don't win championships.

is this foundation of success anything like the circle of trust