Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:

agreed. they are the epitomy of castoffs. We can't rely on rookies to win games this year but we could play them more and live through the growing pains. too bad we gave chicago our lottery pick instead of Lee

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 11-10-2005 01:12 AM]

Oh please, you were so high on Lee no less then a month ago. I've never seen anyones opinion change so quickly 1 month ago David Lee was the next Larry Bird and the Knicks were winning 46 games in your book. Now your jumping off the bandwagon that quick?

Everyone needs to just chill out!

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 11-10-2005 01:18 AM]

46? wow I said 38-43! and I acknowledged Lee's terrible shooting man! I know these Marbury posts get to you bro. you'll just have to ignore them because they be a lot of them all season

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 11-10-2005 01:20 AM]

Posted by MX25:

Briggs is Correct. This team is so flawed it's not even funny. This is not an NBA Team. More like a street ball team.

OHHHHH LOOK AT CRAWFORD PUT BALL BETWEEN HIS LEGS AND AROUND HIS BACK. We not playing NBA Street here guys.

When Curry trade happened mostly everyone said "We def making playoffs and we gonna win 45-50 games"...then we start 0-4 and it's "We are rebuilding". Which is it? 45-50 win playoff team or rebuilding? Can't do both.

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by Knight:

Posted by crzymdups:

people really need to chill out. this is all growing pains. once this team learns how to play together it's going to be very good. I swear.

That's BS. Our best experienced players are castoffs--who nobody wanted or wants now. We need some real ballers who will bring it every night.

agreed. they are the epitomy of castoffs. We can't rely on rookies to win games this year but we could play them more and live through the growing pains. too bad we gave chicago our lottery pick instead of Lee

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 11-10-2005 01:12 AM]

A) you don't know what the negotiations were, what if Chicago wanted the pick AND Lee and Isiah held Lee out of the deal instead of swapping him for the pick. The only thing that planted that idea in your head is Briggs thinking out loud.

B) castoffs or not, they're extremely talented and they're learning to play not only for Brown, but with each other. We have 7 out of 12 guys who are brand new. The reason the rookies play well together is that they KNOW each other from Summer league. When the starters know how to play together, they will get better. It may take a month, but you might want to demonstrate a little patience.

C) Speaking of Chicago, they started 0-9 last year and finished with 47 wins. Parallels? Hmm... they had three rookies, three new starters and they were trying to figure out a rotation...SOUND FAMILIAR???? Anyone who has watched the NBA for a long time knows that it takes time for a team to learn how to play together. You can't just throw a bunch of guys together like a fantasy team and expect to win right away. Check Miami out, for instance, bunch of talented guys who've never played together. Meanwhile, Indiana, who have played together for years beat the stuffing out of them for the second time. And, Yeah, back in the day, Indiana was the youngest team to ever make the playoffs in 2001 under Zeke, and they struggled all season long. Young teams struggle. Teams with new players struggle. Throw in the new coach and it's going to take a while. Patience.

D) Patience.

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by MX25:

Briggs is Correct. This team is so flawed it's not even funny. This is not an NBA Team. More like a street ball team.

OHHHHH LOOK AT CRAWFORD PUT BALL BETWEEN HIS LEGS AND AROUND HIS BACK. We not playing NBA Street here guys.

When Curry trade happened mostly everyone said "We def making playoffs and we gonna win 45-50 games"...then we start 0-4 and it's "We are rebuilding". Which is it? 45-50 win playoff team or rebuilding? Can't do both.

good point. which is it???

Posted by crzymdups:



A) you don't know what the negotiations were, what if Chicago wanted the pick AND Lee and Isiah held Lee out of the deal instead of swapping him for the pick. The only thing that planted that idea in your head is Briggs thinking out loud.

B) castoffs or not, they're extremely talented and they're learning to play not only for Brown, but with each other. We have 7 out of 12 guys who are brand new. The reason the rookies play well together is that they KNOW each other from Summer league. When the starters know how to play together, they will get better. It may take a month, but you might want to demonstrate a little patience.

C) Speaking of Chicago, they started 0-9 last year and finished with 47 wins. Parallels? Hmm... they had three rookies, three new starters and they were trying to figure out a rotation...SOUND FAMILIAR???? Anyone who has watched the NBA for a long time knows that it takes time for a team to learn how to play together. You can't just throw a bunch of guys together like a fantasy team and expect to win right away. Check Miami out, for instance, bunch of talented guys who've never played together. Meanwhile, Indiana, who have played together for years beat the stuffing out of them for the second time. And, Yeah, back in the day, Indiana was the youngest team to ever make the playoffs in 2001 under Zeke, and they struggled all season long. Young teams struggle. Teams with new players struggle. Throw in the new coach and it's going to take a while. Patience.

D) Patience.

Good post Crzy but don't waste your time, no one here will listen. Its the end of the world and you know its the end of the world when New York fans are dissing Larry Brown. I don't care what anyone thinks of the man he's GREAT coach. We all knew this was going to take some time so just let it work itself out but no people can't do that. Rookies are a big part of this team like it or not and they take time to adjust and it also takes time to for the coach to figure out what the best rotation and substitution patterns are. No one has patience.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 11-10-2005 01:40 AM]

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by MX25:

Briggs is Correct. This team is so flawed it's not even funny. This is not an NBA Team. More like a street ball team.

OHHHHH LOOK AT CRAWFORD PUT BALL BETWEEN HIS LEGS AND AROUND HIS BACK. We not playing NBA Street here guys.

When Curry trade happened mostly everyone said "We def making playoffs and we gonna win 45-50 games"...then we start 0-4 and it's "We are rebuilding". Which is it? 45-50 win playoff team or rebuilding? Can't do both.

good point. which is it???

The Bulls started 0-9 last season while working in three rookies and went on to win 47 games. Which were they doing?

I hope we have the exact same turnaround.

Good post Crzy but don't waste your time, no one here will listen. Its the end of the world and you know its the end of the world when New York fans are dissing Larry Brown. I don't care what anyone thinks of the man he's GREAT coach. We all knew this was going to take some time so just let it work itself out but no people can't do that. Rookies are a big part of this team like it or not and they take time to adjust and it also takes time to for the coach to figure out what the best rotation and substitution patterns are. No one has patience.

yeah people need to start looking at this team and the man who put it together. The flaws are driving Larry nuts right now

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 11-10-2005 01:38 AM]

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:

I'll feel a lot better about the future once Marbury who is the key to our identity is gone

Who do you want to be the PG. Instead of just saying you want him off the team or anyone off the team for that matter, who would like to run the point for the Knicks that the Knicks have a legit shot at trading for?