Posted by Marv:

Posted by BasketballJones:

Should Isiah be fired if we don't make the playoffs? Not necessarily. We have a lot of young players and a new coach. It might take some time to make a winning team out of them. Progress is what I'd like to see.

Now if Isiah trades all of our rookies and brings back players like Anderson, Eisley and Weatherspoon - then yes, he should be fired.

doesn't that sound like the name of a firm? i'm not sure what they would specialize in, though.

"good morning, anderson, eisley and weatherspoon. no i'm sorry, mr. anderson is not available. no i'm sorry sir, mr. weatherspoon's not available either. no, actually sir, mr. eisely isn't either. excuse me? all right sir, if you really must know, they are currently laying on the floor in mr. weatherspoon's office playing in a massive pile of money and laughing their asses off uncontrollably. yes that's right, sir. no i'm sorry they're scheduled to do this for the entire rest of the day. you're welcome. and thank you very much for calling, mr. layden."

classic.

Posted by boomann:

I rarely agree with Isles right wing knick views, but they are well presented and worthy of thinking over. Certainly they are topical

That's good now you both can go buy your crack rocks together because it's more than a so called buzz it's optimisum. I didn't see any hope for this team when Howard Eisley and the rest of the Utah Jazz played here, but now looking at Frye, Lee, Curry, Richardson and the rest of the guys I feel hope. Hope was not here 3 years back we just knew we were getting older, stiffer and shorter. Isiah should get a raise just for getting the team three legit big men! nuff said

Posted by misterearl:

Nalod - make no mistake and let's be crystal clear. about the comparisons.

Layden was fired because there was not a single productive player transaction on his watch. Layden was fired because he ADDED larger payroll numbers by signing dreck

Isiah has changed the culture of the entire franchise. Dress code? The Knicks are such a diciplinedunit that a stricter dress code was already in place.

Buzz?

No, it's not that simple. Isiah has obtained intelligent players that were encouraged to get out on the street s and talk with fams rather than reflect the vacuous relationships of the past. Isiah has brought a group that would NOT cower to Latrell Sprewell, or anyone else, cursing at the bench. in another uniform

Isiah has changed the script.

Call it what you want.

My beloved basketball franchise is finally on the right track.

It is a work in PROGRESS that is not two years old.... but more excitement and optimism since the draft of Patrick Ewing. What IS the problem?

Not HaterAde?

Why is the best recognition some can offer only at the end of a rope ?


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Posted by nyk4ever:

Who would have thought Isles was going to respond like that.

I would not fire Isiah this year unless the Knicks really bomb, I'm talking 27-31 wins. So far on paper, the Knicks are a young team that is going to take a year or two before we start to see the results from some of these players. With that being said, this team is much better then a 27-31 win team and should win near 38-43 games which would be an improvement from last year. Next year after these young guys have had a full year they will be fully ready to be players in the NBA.

^ I'm getting a buzz tonight!

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by misterearl:

This thread is pathetic

> Over $250 mil in dollars dished out in future contracts.

False. Conveniently omiting the contractts come off the cap next year AND the deft handlikng of Allan Houston's albatross that was also inherited

>still paying 2 coaches that are no longer with the team.

Just hired Larry Brown. It ain't your money.

>made the playoffs once and then had a utterly DISASTROUS 2nd season.

What Cultural Change happens overnight with ANY professional franchise with so many inherited issues, not the least of which is a salary cap?

>has amassed a bunch of young talent.

and the problem is what? Oh, you hate Nate?

> has amassed a bunch of overpaid veterans.

Repeat, it ain't your money. Tony Davis and Mailk Rose are LEADERS!

>gave up a bunch of picks

What picks? Sheesh, you REALLY want Shandon Anderson back?

>not to mention what'll happen this trade deadline.

Please look in your crystal ball and tell us oh wise one

>>seriously, if the knicks don't make the playoffs this year, should isiah get fired?

Yes, please bring back Al Bianchi, a good fella

[Edited by - MisterEarl on 11-02-2005 11:43 AM]

mr.earl - i did not offer any opinion on the subject. i merely stated what happened. he did all of those things so i ask all of you, should isiah get fired if we don't make the playoffs after all those things he has done. both positive and negative points were given and nothing was said in a sarcastic nature. it was a list of facts and a question based on them.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Every player on the knicks is moveable. Roster flexability is as important as cap space. And we have a ton of roster flexability. So we could complain about the cap all we want. But yet Isiah still has the room to do sign and trades for free agent Eddie Curry.

You're kidding right? There is no flexibility unless you think acquiring major question marks is the key to becoming a championsip contender.

Where is the line of GM's that want to mortgage their team's future and their own for an uninsurable, overweight and out of shape heart patient?

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Every player on the knicks is moveable. Roster flexability is as important as cap space. And we have a ton of roster flexability. So we could complain about the cap all we want. But yet Isiah still has the room to do sign and trades for free agent Eddie Curry.

You're kidding right? There is no flexibility unless you think acquiring major question marks is the key to becoming a championsip contender.

Where is the line of GM's that want to mortgage their team's future and their own for an uninsurable, overweight and out of shape heart patient?