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rvhoss
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11/1/2005  10:22 AM
not me...I'm in this for the wins.

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11/1/2005  10:45 AM
Saying Rose isn't a proven vet is crazy, but giving him heavy minutes is also crazy. He's slowed down and very short and Frye will soon be the better player. It's hard to tell with Lee b/c he does good things, but he's done just as many mistakes for the preseason and his shooting has been abyssmal. He needs to work on that. No free passes for anyone, but for Lee, as much good as he's done, he has to do more to earn the playing time over Rose and Taylor. As for Frye, he's just a good arse all around bball player who simply needs to work on his position rebounding. It will come to him.

As for Taylor, he's actually done some decent things this pre season, and it might not be had to start him off with some minutes. I would be shocked, however, if he was getting minutes towards seasons end. That's kind of when I expect Lee to start emerging a little more.

On a sidenote, rvhoss, that no doubt thing is annoying.
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11/1/2005  10:50 AM
no doubt (eff you allan)
your username is annoying, but I don't get on your case about it.

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11/1/2005  10:55 AM
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11/1/2005  11:19 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Saying Rose isn't a proven vet is crazy, but giving him heavy minutes is also crazy. He's slowed down and very short and Frye will soon be the better player. It's hard to tell with Lee b/c he does good things, but he's done just as many mistakes for the preseason and his shooting has been abyssmal. He needs to work on that. No free passes for anyone, but for Lee, as much good as he's done, he has to do more to earn the playing time over Rose and Taylor. As for Frye, he's just a good arse all around bball player who simply needs to work on his position rebounding. It will come to him.

As for Taylor, he's actually done some decent things this pre season, and it might not be had to start him off with some minutes. I would be shocked, however, if he was getting minutes towards seasons end. That's kind of when I expect Lee to start emerging a little more.

On a sidenote, rvhoss, that no doubt thing is annoying.

Yeah Rose looked real proven knocking around Camby and Thomas back in 99 and did a nice job on K-Mart in 2003. He earned his rings. I think Rose can help this team more than David Lee right now. I think Lee final games were not impressive at all. While I like his hustle, I rather have Frye's buddy, Salim Stoudamire on this roster right about now. btw, if Butler is not the first player to be activated if a forward goes down then something is wrong. That kid beat out about every forward on this team during the preseason except Frye. Butler improved with every game and in every facet. To borrow Briggs' saying "Not bad for a 20 year old player."

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11/1/2005  11:23 AM
I was impressed too, but he's a little slow defensively. He'll get some minutes. Butler that is.
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11/1/2005  1:32 PM
so no ariza, butler, frye, lee, robinson according to this article--i dont know about anyone else, but curry is the saving grace or i would consider rooting for this team to lose. no way am i buying tickets to watch antonio dvais malik rose and fat arse james, since i havent missed a game in a long time i will comntinue to watch and hope that they go in a different direction--i.e start frye and atleast play ariza and robinson, but what good does sitting do for our orgainization? so old guys can win 34 games? rebuilding a team means you have to play guys certain minutes--LA is playing Bynum even though he is 2 years away a solid 15 minutes and they are WAY better than us with just 1 guy. why r we better? id rather herb williams coach if this is the case--same sht happened with arko---lb messed up his devloment--taleast they had a championship team with our old guys we may win 34-30 games--since we have removed the athletiscm from the line up and go to a 6-5 pf etc.... we wont go more than 32-52
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11/1/2005  1:33 PM
also, good move for swapping all those draft picks, maybe greg oden for inactive david lee--brilliant! ariza was just about the only fun player to watch for most of last year--and now he is demoted???
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11/1/2005  1:34 PM
if we dont play the young guys, i hope we start off 1-18
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11/1/2005  1:39 PM
Look....calm your horses...Brown elected to have 12 men on the active roster. I guaranty you that all 12 will be in the rotation at some point. Guys will be earning their minutes,,,,rest assure
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11/1/2005  1:44 PM
well, i understand the darko example, but on the flip side, there's the tayshaun example. so it's a moot point.

i agree tho, there's ZERO reason to not throw frye, ariza, lee, nate, and butler out there in lieu of AD, malik, and mo. it makes no sense. there's no need to baby them. they were drafted b/c they can help right away and have at least 3 years of college experience.
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11/1/2005  1:49 PM
the young boys have totally outplayed Malik, AD and Mo combined. They are a lot more deserving of playing time. I am sorry, if they didn't play well in the preseason, you would have had a valid point; but what has Rose done???? not much.

i agree tho, there's ZERO reason to not throw frye, ariza, lee, nate, and butler out there in lieu of AD, malik, and mo. it makes no sense. there's no need to baby them. they were drafted b/c they can help right away and have at least 3 years of college experience.


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11/1/2005  1:54 PM
Posted by diderotn:

Look....calm your horses...Brown elected to have 12 men on the active roster. I guaranty you that all 12 will be in the rotation at some point. Guys will be earning their minutes,,,,rest assure

Well you knew this was coming with Brown as your coach. And it continues, he doesn't play young guys. He can deny it all he wants and point to Prince (who by the way was a 2nd year player who had monster games against the Sixers in the 2003 playoffs, no shock that Brown plays him when he gets there) but the young forwards just outplayed the veterans. At this point i have to agree with Briggs about not including Lee in the trade. Just from the standpoint of you are not going to play the guy. Isiah is not in control. I hope, I mean I hope we are playing Taylor and Rose to showcased them to other teams. AD I don't mind that much. All I know is that Ariza and Butler better be re-signed. Major doses of Mo Taylor, Malik Rose and Big Game James!!
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11/1/2005  1:55 PM
Posted by diderotn:

the young boys have totally outplayed Malik, AD and Mo combined. They are a lot more deserving of playing time. I am sorry, if they didn't play well in the preseason, you would have had a valid point; but what has Rose done???? not much.

i agree tho, there's ZERO reason to not throw frye, ariza, lee, nate, and butler out there in lieu of AD, malik, and mo. it makes no sense. there's no need to baby them. they were drafted b/c they can help right away and have at least 3 years of college experience.



i think you misunderstood what i wrote. there's ZERO reason NOT to play them.
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11/1/2005  1:56 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by diderotn:

the young boys have totally outplayed Malik, AD and Mo combined. They are a lot more deserving of playing time. I am sorry, if they didn't play well in the preseason, you would have had a valid point; but what has Rose done???? not much.

i agree tho, there's ZERO reason to not throw frye, ariza, lee, nate, and butler out there in lieu of AD, malik, and mo. it makes no sense. there's no need to baby them. they were drafted b/c they can help right away and have at least 3 years of college experience.



i think you misunderstood what i wrote. there's ZERO reason NOT to play them.

In other words, you hate rookies and don't want us to play them?
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11/1/2005  1:56 PM
At this point i have to agree with Briggs about not including Lee in the trade.
I think you mean you have to agree with Briggs' unsubtantiated assumptions about the Curry trade
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11/1/2005  1:57 PM
Isiah is in control...he and Brown have a pretty good understanding between the two. He will do his job and Brown will do his which is to coach the players that Zeke brought in.
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11/1/2005  1:58 PM
Posted by diderotn:

the young boys have totally outplayed Malik, AD and Mo combined. They are a lot more deserving of playing time. I am sorry, if they didn't play well in the preseason, you would have had a valid point; but what has Rose done???? not much.

i agree tho, there's ZERO reason to not throw frye, ariza, lee, nate, and butler out there in lieu of AD, malik, and mo. it makes no sense. there's no need to baby them. they were drafted b/c they can help right away and have at least 3 years of college experience.



Dido, remind us again how many preseason games you saw? Zero?
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11/1/2005  1:59 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by diderotn:

the young boys have totally outplayed Malik, AD and Mo combined. They are a lot more deserving of playing time. I am sorry, if they didn't play well in the preseason, you would have had a valid point; but what has Rose done???? not much.

i agree tho, there's ZERO reason to not throw frye, ariza, lee, nate, and butler out there in lieu of AD, malik, and mo. it makes no sense. there's no need to baby them. they were drafted b/c they can help right away and have at least 3 years of college experience.



Dido, remind us again how many preseason games you saw? Zero?

-3, but ssssssh... dodo is an ex-pert.

Btw, when are you guys implementing the ignore feature on this board?

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Posted by Solace:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by diderotn:

the young boys have totally outplayed Malik, AD and Mo combined. They are a lot more deserving of playing time. I am sorry, if they didn't play well in the preseason, you would have had a valid point; but what has Rose done???? not much.

i agree tho, there's ZERO reason to not throw frye, ariza, lee, nate, and butler out there in lieu of AD, malik, and mo. it makes no sense. there's no need to baby them. they were drafted b/c they can help right away and have at least 3 years of college experience.



i think you misunderstood what i wrote. there's ZERO reason NOT to play them.

In other words, you hate rookies and don't want us to play them?


uhhh no, it means we should play the rookies and there shouldn't be any reason why the old dogs should play ahead of them.
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