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HARDCOREKNICKSFAN
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10/20/2005  11:04 AM
Posted by fishmike:

You could see how Sweetney could really benifit from working with Mark Aguire, but nobody should benefit more than Curry. If you can add some of Mark's fundamentals to Curry's raw ability and skills the outcome could be really scary.

Especially when it comes to positioning, boards and inside D. I believe that he's already improved enough to meet or surpass his avg. points from last season.


Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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Panos
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10/20/2005  11:06 AM
Posted by fishmike:

lol.. dude that Curry play was an offensive foul


That's not only a foul, brother, that's judo!
Nalod
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10/20/2005  12:32 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by diderotn:

white shadow???????????

such a great cheesy 70's show






I never missed a show!
Nalod
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10/20/2005  12:34 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

Post player taking it to the whole with authority (15 points in 17 minutes!!!!):

Drive and dish...well, marbs does that, but not like this:

Standing leap for a dunk (young and athletic):


I don't miss any other knick in history anymore...these are not your older brother's knicks...these knicks are all ours!

No Doubt



They look good getting ass kicked by summer league team!
(they will get kudos when deserved!)
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN
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10/20/2005  12:38 PM
Trying hard to be extra positive today, Huh, Nalod?
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
Nalod
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10/20/2005  12:56 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Trying hard to be extra positive today, Huh, Nalod?


Tell you what, you let me be objective and enjoy the ups and downs of a rebuilding season and you just grab your pom-poms and jump up and down! IN the end, we still cheering the same thing.


TheloniusMonk
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10/20/2005  1:37 PM
^^^^^I never saw a poster defend Scott Layden to the bitter end but then be objective with the next GM. Funny
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HARDCOREKNICKSFAN
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10/20/2005  1:53 PM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

^^^^^I never saw a poster defend Scott Layden to the bitter end but then be objective with the next GM. Funny

LOL you beat me to the punch on that one, Monk!

Nalod, I'll get you a pair of Isiah pom-poms if you promise to throw away the LayDown pom-poms (which are only a couple of raggedy ribbons now!). I'll also throw in a pack of Kool-Aid (the big canister, so you won't have to use your own sugar!) to sweeten the deal.





Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
Nalod
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10/20/2005  2:17 PM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

^^^^^I never saw a poster defend Scott Layden to the bitter end but then be objective with the next GM. Funny

I never saw a poster who was so hung up on my position that the desicion making of managment behind Layden, to even the extent it failed itself by hiring Layden in the first place. Even Funnier.

Even Funnier is the notion that the giving kudos to the president (mills) and Dolan for allowing Isiah to spend like crazy is not even recognized. That process allows Isiah the freedom to do a good job by revamping the roster. The naive thought that Isiah is a god by turning over the roster by the waive of his magic wand only is very cute in a Peter Pan kinda way!

There is reason you don't drink Kool Aid as an adult is one day you wake up and realize it tastes like crap no matter what the ad campaign says.







Marv
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10/20/2005  2:24 PM
man don't you guys think that kool-aid should become a corporate sponsor of ultimateknicks and pay martin and andrew a s**load of money?
Solace
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10/20/2005  3:42 PM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

^^^^^I never saw a poster defend Scott Layden to the bitter end but then be objective with the next GM. Funny

I never saw a poster who was so hung up on my position that the desicion making of managment behind Layden, to even the extent it failed itself by hiring Layden in the first place. Even Funnier.

Even Funnier is the notion that the giving kudos to the president (mills) and Dolan for allowing Isiah to spend like crazy is not even recognized. That process allows Isiah the freedom to do a good job by revamping the roster. The naive thought that Isiah is a god by turning over the roster by the waive of his magic wand only is very cute in a Peter Pan kinda way!

There is reason you don't drink Kool Aid as an adult is one day you wake up and realize it tastes like crap no matter what the ad campaign says.






It says "Now from Mars". LOL!
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
Rich
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10/20/2005  4:04 PM
The future's so bright I gotta wear shades.

[Edited by - Rich on 10-20-2005 4:04 PM]
boomann
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10/20/2005  4:06 PM
The future's so bright I gotta wear shades

classic
"We need another shot blocker and we need more girth in the middle, once that happens we have a chance to be a pretty decent team" Isiah on draft night
knixphan
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10/20/2005  7:29 PM
I love the fact that there are jokes on these boards now...Not long ago you had to duck to avoid the punches. I guess that's what it's like when a team has hope?
"I will dress in bright and cheery colors, and so throw my enemies into confusion."
Knicksfan
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10/20/2005  7:42 PM
Posted by knixphan:

I love the fact that there are jokes on these boards now...Not long ago you had to duck to avoid the punches. I guess that's what it's like when a team has hope?

Same thing happened last season, but then the team came down to earth and it was punching time! Hopefully this season we'll have more reasons to smile. If not, well... at least we still have the Jessica Alba thread
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Nalod
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10/20/2005  7:49 PM
We used to argue whose falut it was that the team sucked. I am long remembered for defending layden as someone who was told to do a job with a limited objective. He made some bad moves, but did not have the lattidude to buy his way out, nor did his manaagement support him. He was told to get high charactor guys and "WIN NOW". With that, the Dice deal was done. He had to deal with the end results of the Ewing debacle. I thought there were no more panic moves after and we were set for a very long rebuild process. I thought he was a bad hire to begin with and that unless you change the thinking at the top, you can't make any changes. Its obvious we changed our thinking and was suprised layden was let go mid season and not that just Isiah was hired, but the budget was increased as it has!

Its easier to just say "layden sucks". I will defend my position.

Yes, its much much better now.

We have both Hope and deliverence!
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN
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10/20/2005  11:02 PM
Since Laydown is only a memory in the Knicks world, it would be correctly stated as "LAYDOWN SUCKED". (Deliver that one to Nedyal for me! )

Hope and Deliverance from the Messiah...

Messiah Thomas.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
mintyfreshness33
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10/20/2005  11:38 PM
Posted by knixphan:

I love the fact that there are jokes on these boards now...Not long ago you had to duck to avoid the punches. I guess that's what it's like when a team has hope?


cant wait for this season!
joec32033
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10/21/2005  12:28 PM
Posted by Nalod:

We used to argue whose falut it was that the team sucked. I am long remembered for defending layden as someone who was told to do a job with a limited objective. He made some bad moves, but did not have the lattidude to buy his way out, nor did his manaagement support him. He was told to get high charactor guys and "WIN NOW". With that, the Dice deal was done. He had to deal with the end results of the Ewing debacle. I thought there were no more panic moves after and we were set for a very long rebuild process. I thought he was a bad hire to begin with and that unless you change the thinking at the top, you can't make any changes. Its obvious we changed our thinking and was suprised layden was let go mid season and not that just Isiah was hired, but the budget was increased as it has!

Its easier to just say "layden sucks". I will defend my position.

Yes, its much much better now.

We have both Hope and deliverence!


Nalod I understand your point, and to a point it is true. BUT you have to remember at one time, Layden had an open check book and we ended up with HUGE contracts for Eisley, Weatherspoon, Harrington, Anderson, Van Horn, and McDyess when he was hurt and Houston's contract. Dolan had every right and EVERY reason to pull in the reigns on Layden.
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Nalod
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10/21/2005  1:08 PM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Nalod:

We used to argue whose falut it was that the team sucked. I am long remembered for defending layden as someone who was told to do a job with a limited objective. He made some bad moves, but did not have the lattidude to buy his way out, nor did his manaagement support him. He was told to get high charactor guys and "WIN NOW". With that, the Dice deal was done. He had to deal with the end results of the Ewing debacle. I thought there were no more panic moves after and we were set for a very long rebuild process. I thought he was a bad hire to begin with and that unless you change the thinking at the top, you can't make any changes. Its obvious we changed our thinking and was suprised layden was let go mid season and not that just Isiah was hired, but the budget was increased as it has!

Its easier to just say "layden sucks". I will defend my position.

Yes, its much much better now.

We have both Hope and deliverence!


Nalod I understand your point, and to a point it is true. BUT you have to remember at one time, Layden had an open check book and we ended up with HUGE contracts for Eisley, Weatherspoon, Harrington, Anderson, Van Horn, and McDyess when he was hurt and Houston's contract. Dolan had every right and EVERY reason to pull in the reigns on Layden.

He didn't pull it after Isiahs first debacle (33 wins), and we kept our picks rather than panic.

Remember my core arguement is not to back Layden. I said he was a bad hire to begin with. He also had to parlay Rices bad contract into something. We were going down fast and furious. A trio of a healthy Dice-Spree-H20 with the right role players back then was not a bad idea. A risk, a gamble it was. Mixed with a directive to get high character players from the owner.

In retrospect, it was a disaster. And so far (remember it was about THEN), Nene has yet to be able to carry the franchise. And Denver passed over Amare twice.

It happens. Better things ahead!


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