Posted by islesfan:

Posted by Bonn1997:

one thing i realized about curry in 3 games watching him close he stinks on the d

It took you these three games to realize that? Did you never see him play in Chicago?

Yeah seriously, Curry's effort, or lack thereof, on the defensive side has always been a problem.

I think he is scare to pick up fouls. You can tell it bothers him too. He is so big and strong that I don't know if it is flopping or what but he looks like he just whacks guys. When he posts up he reminds of Shaq in his younger days. That bump he put on Hunter had to be payback for the slap against his face. He needs to learn some finese to some of his moves.

Posted by BRIGGS:

hes so key for us, they have to get him playing at a higher level quicker

OK, so you think it should take Curry 1 preseason game to turn himself into a passable defender instead of 3? Word.

however, even though curry can't play D and gets in foul trouble, the team was + alot while he was on the floor. So he better not committ stupid fouls

Or heart surgery!

Posted by BRIGGS:

i dont know how much basketball you have played

Yes, if someone disagrees with you obviously they have inferior basketball acumen. Forgive me, O Great One!

but defense is all about intensity,positioning and effort. It really shouldnt take someone three years to bring those assets to the floor, especially since the guy has been playing in the league 4 years. People are acting like he is a rookie, and hes not. Emeka Okafor is a good defender because he plays hard - practices and tries to get better.
Play hard, move your feet, dont try to block every shot, dont lunge into your man, hold position, keep your hands up etc... it isnt brain surgery

Agreed, which is why I think there's hope that Curry can improve his D substantially. It's much easier to learn D than it is learn O. I don't know how much you know about the brain, but all forms of learning take time, and learning D is no exception. It's simply ridiculous to expect a guy who came out of HS and has displayed defensive deficiencies throughout his career to just "get it" overnight and become a good defender. Give Larry Brown some time to mold the young fella, don't expect miracles.

Nah, I'd say the sensitive ones are the guys who get upset because Allen Iverson wears baggy jeans.

Posted by fishmike:

Ive noticed Tom is kinda sensative

this is what would happen to eddie in a jc practice. the swear words with be one-letter.

eddie will you fing run back, eddie did you f hear me are you going to f run today--you know what eddie you are going to make every last one of your teammates run an extra 10 laps if you dont move that arse harder.

eddie what did we tell you, cut the f lane off, how many f times do i have to run it through your head, cut the f lane off. eddie keep your f hands up keep them up or get the fck out of here and take a shower


thats what he missed in college, and thats probably a playfull calhoun, i have seen way worse. he needs discpline in his game, he shouldnt need that after 4 years in the pros right? I mean he has collected 20mm$ he should understand some nuances here

Posted by tomverve:

Hey, he only had one season under a coach who really got defensive results out of his team. And if anyone can get him to D up, it's Larry Brown. But again, it's going to take a bit of time-- it's not realistic to expect results overnight, especially if the thing we want him to learn is something he's historically struggled with. Patience.

Why can't you expect better effort and hustle on the defensive side overnight?

Well, obviously you can expect effort and hustle regardless of knowledge or skill, though conditioning is a limiting factor and Curry still needs to get into optimal game shape

Did he stink or are the refs stinking because from my understanding he's getting fould for just breathing on guys. He can't play d if they don't let him stay on the court. He's also in terrible shape. He looks like an old man right now but, give him the rest of this month and at least half of November and I believe he'll be right were he needs to be. After that though it's all on Curry to pay more attteniton to what's going on when he's on the court. That dude sure can score some points though, that's what's got me excited he's getting like 13 points a game playing 15 minutes.

Posted by nixluva:

There's too much emphasis being placed on how he's looked in limited action in 3 PRESEASON games! Come on already. I think its going to take more than a couple of weeks for him to get it together. I really don't care if he never becomes a defensive terror or not. Shaq hasn't really be one for years now. He NEVER defends a pick and roll.
Give Curry a chance to get in shape and to learn the game on a higher level. He obviously is not a finished product.

Do yourself a favor and never mention Curry in the same breath as Shaq again.

He's been in the league for 4 years now and still can't do basic defensive positioning. That's a little problematic. Throw in his poor work ethic and continued lack of effort and it's no given that he'll ever pick it up.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by nixluva:

There's too much emphasis being placed on how he's looked in limited action in 3 PRESEASON games! Come on already. I think its going to take more than a couple of weeks for him to get it together. I really don't care if he never becomes a defensive terror or not. Shaq hasn't really be one for years now. He NEVER defends a pick and roll.
Give Curry a chance to get in shape and to learn the game on a higher level. He obviously is not a finished product.

Do yourself a favor and never mention Curry in the same breath as Shaq again.

He's been in the league for 4 years now and still can't do basic defensive positioning. That's a little problematic. Throw in his poor work ethic and continued lack of effort and it's no given that he'll ever pick it up.

shaq averaged 14 rebounds and 3.6 blocks his first year, when he was 20 years old, or nearly 3 years younger than Curry. Shaq is one of a kind. he is a legit 7-1 probably in bare feet and easily the strongest dude ever to play. I think Curry is probably 6-10 in sneaks, he sure is a big agile dude with a lot of strength, but he doesnt play long.
i would think with his athletic ability, just by luck by being on the court for 30 minutes, 8 rebounds would just find its way to his hands.
not a shotblocker, but he can do other things he must try harder and play smarter.