Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by tkf:

[quote]Posted by TheSage:

I may be wrong on the year-but 1964 the Knx drafted IM "Bad News Barnes" a solid PF and on the second round a guy by the name of Reed.

In 1966 they drafted a couple of guys named Cazzie Russell and Bill Bradley

In 1967 they drafted Clyde and guy by the name of Phil Jackson and it was Bradley's rookie year.

Those were bad drafts.

Does anyone remember who the knx drafted the same year they got Ewing?

[Edited by - TheSage on 10-18-2005 10:32 AM]

yea in that same year the knicks drafted Gerald wilkins, Ken Banister and Eddie lee wilkins I think. I went to the first preaseaon game that year at the Garden...

nope, eddie lee and ken bannister were a year before ewing-remember eddie wilkins had a huge game his first game his rookie season, played pretty well but quietly went to the abysss, ken bannister had some moments too, but he was along the same lines

My bad, I know they were close in years being drafted, I went to the first preaseaon game with Ewing and Bannister and wilkens had great games.. I saw Eddie lee wilking down here in georgia about 11 years ago, at a sporting goods store, we spoke for a while, his knees he said basically ended his NBA career...

Funny but I was going to say that it was the worst draft in Knicks history. Imagine 3 1st rd picks and none of them becoming a solid NBA starter. That's pretty bad. Of course that has as much validity as saying that it's the best before any of them have even played an NBA game. But why be objective when you can pour yourself a Super Big Gulp sized Kool-Aid and make stupid proclamations

Posted by Nalod:

Posted by islesfan:

Funny but I was going to say that it was the worst draft in Knicks history. Imagine 3 1st rd picks and none of them becoming a solid NBA starter. That's pretty bad. Of course that has as much validity as saying that it's the best before any of them have even played an NBA game. But why be objective when you can pour yourself a Super Big Gulp sized Kool-Aid and make stupid proclamations.

Wholey logical!

Don't want to be snitty but if someone bookmarked Isles opinion about the draft right after the draft. Would we find rational objective thought?? Not to be snitty.

Posted by Nalod:

James is 30 years old for goodness sake! Curry has played 4 years. Q is 25!

How can you include them?

Posted by BRIGGS:

it appears that it will be a fine, fine draft,but even if you added Curry to that mix, it doesnt hold Patrick Ewing's jockstrap. Remember we also got Gerald Wilins in that draft, and it wil be hard pressed to find a guy as good as Gerald. Maybe there will be, but Patrick is a top 20 player of all time and couldve brought the knicks to 5-6 finals if things just went a little different. Eddie Curry is NOT a player who comes around every 15-20 years--hes a better version of jahidi white at this point, guys like hakeem ewing isiah thomas are guys who come around 15-20 years. Guys like patrick Robinson et al,dont just do one thing well, they dominate the game with scoring defense rebounding all facets--those are players that come around every so often. Right now, as much as Curry looks good scoring against weak interior teams, his game would need to go to a next level.

Posted by Panos:

Posted by BRIGGS:

it appears that it will be a fine, fine draft,but even if you added Curry to that mix, it doesnt hold Patrick Ewing's jockstrap. Remember we also got Gerald Wilins in that draft, and it wil be hard pressed to find a guy as good as Gerald. Maybe there will be, but Patrick is a top 20 player of all time and couldve brought the knicks to 5-6 finals if things just went a little different. Eddie Curry is NOT a player who comes around every 15-20 years--hes a better version of jahidi white at this point, guys like hakeem ewing isiah thomas are guys who come around 15-20 years. Guys like patrick Robinson et al,dont just do one thing well, they dominate the game with scoring defense rebounding all facets--those are players that come around every so often. Right now, as much as Curry looks good scoring against weak interior teams, his game would need to go to a next level.

Hate to be the nay-sayer around here, but I don't buy Ewing top 20 all time.
Perhaps top 20 in the last 20 years?
Even just looking at centers, above him (or comparable) in the last 20 years are:
Shaq
Parrish
Kareem
Hakeem
Robinson
Zo
Add in the other 4 positions, and I'll guess you get nearly 20.

Also, I don't get all this hype about Gerald Wilkins. He sucked. Couldn't shoot sh!t.

While I agree with what you are saying no way do I even begin to think of Zo as being on his level. The numbers don't support it and the head to head doesn't either. Same with Parish, while the Celts would usually come out on top in their meetings and the Chief gave him everything he could handle, Ewing would still put up better numbers and the Chief could rely on Bird and McHale to go to work. Not the case for Ewing (that's why I put 89 playoff series as one of Ewing's greatest). David is right on Ewing's level, the MVP and championship may cause him to be either a top above or on the same level though. But keep in mine many of the past big men are so overrated it is ridculous. Put some of these guys back in the past and dominate just as easy.