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oohah
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10/2/2005  2:17 AM
I really don't want a heart problem on the team because I don't want to see a Gathers/Lewis type thing.

But from a basketball perspective, getting Curry would be quite an upgrade. I have to caveat that and say if we get the good Curry, not the slothful Curry. I don't think Curry rebounds well enough for his size/ability.

It balances the team quite well. It makes us no longer undersized. Curry is a center-sized forward who can score. This presents a perfect complement to Ariza/Frye/James. Also for Marbury, who will have somebody who can finish when he dishes. It also opens up minutes for players I would rather see play than TT.

If we do trade Sweetney I will miss his generally good persona and his strong rebounding, but I think the positives of getting a Curry and losing a TT are too much not to do it.

No way I want to include Ariza, I believe he has star potential. Ariza is a deal-breaker for me. I don't think Chicago wants him anyway. I would prefer not to include Lee either. I think two healthy players are enough to trade for a possible health risk who has shown great potential but has been inconsistent in his 3 years.

oohah

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10/2/2005  2:31 AM
Isiah ain't no punk. All of Isiah's moves have been good in regards to Isiah getting good value for who he trades off.

Even with the Crawford trade......yeah the Knicks traded......who did we trade again? lol......my point being if something does happen....Isiah got it under control.
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10/2/2005  2:34 AM
Anybody remember Monty Williams? He had something wrong with his heart and he had decent career as a back-up in the NBA.....and he was drafted by the Knicks.

This Curry heart stuff could be being blown out of proportion
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10/2/2005  2:38 AM
Anybody remember Monty Williams? He had something wrong with his heart and he had decent career as a back-up in the NBA.....and he was drafted by the Knicks.
This Curry heart stuff could be being blown out of proportion

Hell Yeah I remember Monty. He took 6 years to get through college because they didn't let him play for 2 years due to his heart condition. You might be right about Currie's condition being exaggerated and I hope you are.

oohah

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10/2/2005  3:13 AM
giving them lee with sweets and TT is way too much, we give them two young players, one who was a lottery pick, and expiring deal? wow, a lot of you guys are trying to minimalize the value of lee because he was the last pick in the first round, it is funny that chicago would rather take that than a first rounder next year which would most likey be higher than 30, chicago is not stupid, they know lee is a player, otherwise they would just take the friggin pick!!
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10/2/2005  3:22 AM
I think it'll come down to Lee and TT. That's a bit much, but it's not backbreaking.

Unless of course Curry ends up not being able to play. Then it's a loss no matter how you cut it...
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10/2/2005  5:19 AM
I may be the only one that would send Frye to Chicago instead of Sweetney.
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10/2/2005  7:27 AM
I hope Isiah steps away from this trade. Imo, Lee, Nate, Ariza, Frye and god forbid....Sweetney (who I think will be the real deal this year) will be extremely solid young pros. How often have we been able to say solid and young about the Knicks. Don't get me wrong, I like Curry alot but I wouldn't give up the house for him. I think this heart thing is way overblown because when it gets right down to it those skank Bulls were simply trying to lowball Curry. My offer would be:

Tim Thomas and all of next years 1st and second round picks for Curry. Not sure if the salaries would work out.

I'd even agree to waive the lottery protection however I don't know if we still owe Phoenix a first and Houston a 2nd and how that will effect all of this.
If they balk then step away. Take another shot at him at the deadline or next year for a UFA Curry dish. Curry is endeared to Isiah by now so the seed has been set.

But....Keep the kids



[Edited by - junkmein on 10-02-2005 07:39 AM]
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10/2/2005  8:57 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by mintyfreshness33:

also, will curry and frye be a good combo? i mean both of them are below average rebounders. hmm
i wouldnt do it, i would just wait this out, i have a feeling the bulls will eventually take our first offer of tt, sweet and pick


good point, with curry frye and james we will ned someone who can rebound
At least we have an SG who averages 6 to 7 RPG in Q (and can play SF)



[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 10-02-2005 08:57 AM]
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10/2/2005  8:58 AM
geeze.. why cant we for once target a player that doesnt have so many freakin issues?

thumbs down on the trade for me. Damaged goods
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10/2/2005  9:19 AM
IMO the heart condition is way overblown and can only work in our favor. I'd Give them TT, Sweets, one 1st round pick and the 2nd round pick if necessary, to get the deal done.

I'd love to see us get Eddy Curry.
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10/2/2005  9:41 AM
Posted by fishmike:

geeze.. why cant we for once target a player that doesnt have so many freakin issues?
You mean why can't we buy high instead of buy low?
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10/2/2005  9:44 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by fishmike:

geeze.. why cant we for once target a player that doesnt have so many freakin issues?
You mean why can't we buy high instead of buy low?

I think he's making a sarcastic statement dude. Correct me if i'm wrong Fish.
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10/2/2005  9:47 AM
Posted by JUNKMEIN:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by fishmike:

geeze.. why cant we for once target a player that doesnt have so many freakin issues?
You mean why can't we buy high instead of buy low?

I think he's making a sarcastic statement dude. Correct me if i'm wrong Fish.
His comment would make much more sense if it were sarcastic, but if you know how high he is on Sweetney, you have to assume he isn't being sarcastic.
(We've heard countless times "15 PPG in a few games where Mike was playing well and thus got more minutes.")



[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 10-02-2005 09:48 AM]
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10/2/2005  10:00 AM
mintyfresh said it though......can we rely on Frye and Curry to clean up the boards? They both have the potential but haven't shown they can truly do it night in and night out.

I'll add to that saying can Taylor, Frye, Curry, James and Rose handle the boards? Why not?.....they should but the stats show that they are all underachievers on the boards.....

Still Curry would look nice in the orange and blue

Adding to that....we have Larry Brown and a slew of other top totch assistant coaches.....Brown is not 40 or 50.....dude is 60. We talk about Curry catching a heart attack? Brown will piss all over himself trying to get these guys to rebound the ball!

[Edited by - enyspree on 10-02-2005 10:06 AM]
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10/2/2005  10:02 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by JUNKMEIN:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by fishmike:

geeze.. why cant we for once target a player that doesnt have so many freakin issues?
You mean why can't we buy high instead of buy low?

I think he's making a sarcastic statement dude. Correct me if i'm wrong Fish.
His comment would make much more sense if it were sarcastic, but if you know how high he is on Sweetney, you have to assume he isn't being sarcastic.
(We've heard countless times "15 PPG in a few games where Mike was playing well and thus got more minutes.")



[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 10-02-2005 09:48 AM]


I do know how high he is on Sweetney and that's not higher than I am on him. I've stated many times prior to now that I think Sweetney is going to be a borderline Allstar this year. I think Fish was making a sarcastic statement as anybody with even an inkling of the situation knows we more often than not can not buy low because we're a universe above the cap. Lighten up dude.







[Edited by - junkmein on 10-02-2005 10:05 AM]
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10/2/2005  10:07 AM
risk.
there are high ones and low ones.

we have no idea healthwise what curry is all about.

that, to me, is a HIGH risk...too high a risk to be giving up potentially 2-3 young pieces (some combo of sweetney/ariza/lee/and the pick which is just as valuable based on isiah's drafting ability).

i would love to see curry here also, but i'm talking about the curry pre-march 2005. but that's not the curry we're talking about. we're talking about the one that couldn't play and now can't get insured. i don't give a crap about the money we would give him. i'm concerned about the length but more importantly giving up pieces of our team for a guy that may never play again.
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10/2/2005  10:09 AM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

IMO the heart condition is way overblown and can only work in our favor.

hardcore, i disagree with you here. he can't get insurance. freakin' wwf wrestlers can get insurance but this guy can't. that's not something i can just dismiss.
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10/2/2005  10:52 AM
Personally I hope we don't get Eddy Curry.

I recognize his strengths - dude has turned into a good lowpost scorer. Shoots a good percentage. Has improved his scoring every year. Has a center's body and takes up a lot of room. Can be very aggressive on offense and throws down a mean dunk.

but . . . the guy is also one of the lamest p***ies in the league. I can't stand his game or watching him. He plays scared of anyone who plays him physically. He shows no desire on D or the boards. Like TT. Almost exactly like TT. We throw around here the stories of Sweets throwing him out of the paint, and if you saw it you know it's true.

Now i'm in favor of us bringing more center-sized talent to the team, and I believe that ultimately Isiah will stock us with 4 or 5 guys who can alternate at the 4 and 5. But unless Curry really falls off the earth and becomes available for Rose or Taylor I don't want him. Not for TT. I want TT's money to expire. I still believe that TT's, Penny's and Houston's contracts have to go off the books for this franchise to be in a position to right itself. We keep building up with young talent, a good coach and eventual financial sanity, we're going to be okay.
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10/2/2005  11:04 AM
According to my sources the Knicks are giving up Tim Thomas and a number 1 pick for Curry. The deal is 80% done. This happens, then watch out, cuz we become a very deep team.
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