Posted by MS:

Frye is really going to suck, look at the kid he has the body of a high school center, and we are expecting big things out of him, I would have went green, granger or brynum because each has a chance to be something special

Frye has a shane battier type of ceiling without the consistent play in college, he looks like a soft *****

You can't be serious! He's a good size and is actually bigger than Rasheed and Bosh right now! If they can succeed in the NBA surely Frye is not too weak to do so. He's got the talent to be a pretty good player and if LB and Aguirre can help him perfect his game where he needs it, I expect good things from him. He's smart enough and has shown that he is a good team player, but will step up his play if the team needs him. Just look at his performance in the NCAA's:

Utah St. 17 pts -10 reb - 5 blks
UAB 6 pts - 7 reb - 3 blks
Oak St. 15 pts - 10 reb - 3 blks
Illinois 24 pts - 12 reb - 6 blks

Posted by Nalod:

[quote]Posted by djsunyc:

i think we need to put a cease and desist on all things bynum related.
any lawyers out there? i would've drafted bynum over frye but that's here nor there. no gloating, no eating crow, no nothing. we took frye - case closed. let's move on please.

btw, from what LB said in his press conference, how we didn't have 18-19 year olds with potential but players that played in college and are coached to win as a team, well doesn't that just make you think that he had a little bit of say in who we drafted? this was in the works for a while, imho. he was the next knicks head coach and they knew it back in june. so he probably advised isiah to go with frye over bynum.

Man, you better have some proof before you make such hard statements. This conspiricy thing could land you in a heap of trouble! Check at night if a "cable" truck is parked outside! They might be watching you! Listening to you! I'd hate to see you that you suddenly "disapeared" one day. LOL

Actually, THe "character" thing is a page from Dolans book also. I think Isiah does not want immature boys on the team. I recall his speach last year to the incoming rookie class and he laid into them pretty good about discipline, respect and the privilige it is to do what they do for the money they make.

Part of the failure of some of these teens are a product of physical imaturity (livingston), Mental developement (kwame), and the pressure to handle a full time job and be prepared year round as a professional.

Its important that the guys you draft have the ability to improve, but also the internal capcity to do what is necessary. NOt that Bynum did not have it, but Channing is a well rounded guy and has a body type that can suceed. HE might not be a star, but can be part of a strong foundation.



easy to spot great characteristics in bynum

high school grades
sat score
willingness to comeback from an injury and play in hs while not at 100%
willingness to change his entire diet -workout routine at 17 and transform his whole body
willingness to put in huge hours to work on fundamentals

Posted by crzymdups:

what does Bynum have to do with the Knicks?

he was there for us and could've been the player to finally help turnaround the Knicks in a very big way and very soon

I wanted to draft Bynum, but it's over. Turn the page.

oh great now we're f'in putting kwame in this too... Soon briggs is gonna say "I know but I'd rather have mihm, kobe, odom, and the rest of the lakers too" I tell you, if kwame and bynum both blossom into all-stars, the world will end. That is just way too much to ask for briggs. It's like asking sweetney to become elton brand 2 or something. If it happens by some miracle, okay. But there's no need to turn the ultimateknicks forum into ultimatelakers with 2000 bynum threads. I'd like to ask if a single member here does not know of your infatuation with bynum...

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Posted by teslawlo:

oh great now we're f'in putting kwame in this too... Soon briggs is gonna say "I know but I'd rather have mihm, kobe, odom, and the rest of the lakers too" I tell you, if kwame and bynum both blossom into all-stars, the world will end. That is just way too much to ask for briggs. It's like asking sweetney to become elton brand 2 or something. If it happens by some miracle, okay. But there's no need to turn the ultimateknicks forum into ultimatelakers with 2000 bynum threads. I'd like to ask if a single member here does not know of your infatuation with bynum...


Don't worry, I don't have him on my desktop or have like a picture with candles around it or anything like that. I like Frye--there are some people who dont, or lower expectations for him, but like I said I feel he can be a Tayshaun Prince type of pF--and thats a pretty good endorsement. Id rather have Frye than Gerald Green and most of the players that came after us.