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Marv
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9/22/2005  7:30 PM
just looked this stuff up

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=meniscus+transplant&btnG=Google+Search

amazing. nothing like medical technology. where are you having it done?
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9/22/2005  7:44 PM
just looked this stuff up
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=meniscus+transplant&btnG=Google+Search

amazing. nothing like medical technology. where are you having it done?

The NYU Hospital for Joint Diseases.

The doc said it is no longer experimental, but there is no true long term data either. But it is my last shot.

oohah

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9/22/2005  7:55 PM
oh i'm familiar with that place. got casts put on there when i was getting stress fractures from running on nyc streets.

have a great recovery - i don't want you paying off your steak dinner bet to me with hospital food!
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9/22/2005  8:52 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

so caseloads is a doctor?

Naw, he just stayed at a holiday Inn express last nite!




My hats off to you med professionals!
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9/22/2005  8:59 PM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by EnySpree:

so caseloads is a doctor?

Naw, he just stayed at a holiday Inn express last nite!




My hats off to you med professionals!


lmao!!!!!

You are a silly ass, lol
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9/22/2005  9:02 PM
well all this talk of knee replacement and multiple knee surgeries has me scared like hell. I'm currently revovering from my own left knee acl surgery 5 months ago......I must say that my rehab has come to a standstill. I haven't done anything at all as far as working out in like 3 weeks....work and home schedule is kicking my ass.

I still would like to try to meet my personal goal of being able to play basketball in January.

****FYI****

I have been shooting around. My knee is so not ready for running and jumping but I feel the courts calling my name. I was shooting around the last 2 days. I'm not experiencing any pain but my knee is very tired and it's been very weak and wobbly.

I just want to touch the court man. I want to play again. The courts are calling me.

[Edited by - enyspree on 09-22-2005 9:09 PM]
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9/22/2005  10:11 PM
well all this talk of knee replacement and multiple knee surgeries has me scared like hell. I'm currently revovering from my own left knee acl surgery 5 months ago......I must say that my rehab has come to a standstill. I haven't done anything at all as far as working out in like 3 weeks....work and home schedule is kicking my ass.
I still would like to try to meet my personal goal of being able to play basketball in January.

****FYI****

I have been shooting around. My knee is so not ready for running and jumping but I feel the courts calling my name. I was shooting around the last 2 days. I'm not experiencing any pain but my knee is very tired and it's been very weak and wobbly.

I just want to touch the court man. I want to play again. The courts are calling me.

Enyspree I cannot impress this on you enough. DON'T RUSH BACK!!!! Do not try to do anything that puts undue torque or lateral pressure (Pivoting and cutting.) on your knee until you feel 100%. While your knee is weak you are ripe for a meniscus tear. Probably other injuries too. In addition, you will probably weigh more than you are used to, so that only adds to the risk. As I am sure you know, basketball is very streesful to your knee, more than most sports. When you are recovering from a knee injury it can be dangerous. Do basketball drills before you try to actually play. Play with some buddies that know you are hurt to practice before you try to play competively.

If your knee feels weak or anything like it in January, don't force yourself back. Trust me, the alternative is worse.

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Did you have a cadaver ligament placed in you? They are putting cadaver meniscus in me. Is there anything "strange" about it that you have noticed? (Other than having a dead person's parts in you.)

Best of luck in your recovery,

oohah

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9/22/2005  10:29 PM
oohah: I am so disappointed in you. Where is the line by line 1/2 page long reply? btw, gl 2 u and eny and ur knees.
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9/22/2005  11:40 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

well all this talk of knee replacement and multiple knee surgeries has me scared like hell. I'm currently revovering from my own left knee acl surgery 5 months ago......I must say that my rehab has come to a standstill. I haven't done anything at all as far as working out in like 3 weeks....work and home schedule is kicking my ass.

I still would like to try to meet my personal goal of being able to play basketball in January.

****FYI****

I have been shooting around. My knee is so not ready for running and jumping but I feel the courts calling my name. I was shooting around the last 2 days. I'm not experiencing any pain but my knee is very tired and it's been very weak and wobbly.

I just want to touch the court man. I want to play again. The courts are calling me.

[Edited by - enyspree on 09-22-2005 9:09 PM]


Maybe you with knees that creek can empathize with what Allan Houstan is going thru? Except for the extreme net worth of course!
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9/22/2005  11:55 PM
oh i'm familiar with that place. got casts put on there when i was getting stress fractures from running on nyc streets.
have a great recovery - i don't want you paying off your steak dinner bet to me with hospital food!

Thanks Marv, by the way, I like the aged steaks...
oohah: I am so disappointed in you. Where is the line by line 1/2 page long reply? btw, gl 2 u and eny and ur knees.

Don't tempt me. (And thanx for the well-wishes.)
Maybe you with knees that creek can empathize with what Allan Houstan is going thru? Except for the extreme net worth of course!

I absolutely empathize with his medical condition. It is all the money, talent, attention, and interest that I don't know nuthin' about.

oohah


[Edited by - oohah on 09-22-2005 11:56 PM]

[Edited by - oohah on 09-22-2005 11:56 PM]
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9/22/2005  11:58 PM
i don't want you paying off your steak dinner bet to me with hospital food!

Hey! Wheres your KT prediction?

oohah

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9/23/2005  4:09 AM
Posted by oohah:
i don't want you paying off your steak dinner bet to me with hospital food!

Hey! Wheres your KT prediction?

oohah


Okay, I say 12 and 10. You said 18 and 10, right? So how would this work? I'm not concerned about the boards, it was the points I was really reacting to. If he scores 18 or more a game, I'd say you definitely win, regardless of the boards. If he scores 12 or less, I would think I'd win, again regardless of boards, right? And then if he ends up scoring more than 12 but less than 18 no one wins?
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9/23/2005  7:44 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by oohah:
i don't want you paying off your steak dinner bet to me with hospital food!

Hey! Wheres your KT prediction?

oohah


Okay, I say 12 and 10. You said 18 and 10, right? So how would this work? I'm not concerned about the boards, it was the points I was really reacting to. If he scores 18 or more a game, I'd say you definitely win, regardless of the boards. If he scores 12 or less, I would think I'd win, again regardless of boards, right? And then if he ends up scoring more than 12 but less than 18 no one wins?
You should have predicted 17.99 PPG, Marv.
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9/23/2005  7:50 AM
Posted by oohah:
what did you do to your knee? 4 years?

I have had bad knees in general mainly from playing on NYC concrete my whole life.

I tore my left knee for real on my birthday 4 years ago. I didn't get surgery for 8 months because I was uninsured. I did not stop playing basketball.

My first left-knee operation I expected to be a normal arthroscopy (about 6 weeks to near normal.) But I came off the table with a microfracture (Which I had never heard of at that point.)

A year later I had both knees done. My right knee came back amazingly is now better than it was 15 years ago. The doctor told me I had further degeneration in my left knee. He told me I had no more options really except for a "Lateral release" Which actually changes the alignment of your knee.

I rehabbed the last 2 years but my knee got worse and worse. (This is what is happening to Allan Houston most likely.) I just had another surgery on my left knee with a different doctor. He told me that my lateral meniscus (The outside of your knee.) is basically gone, bone on bone, arthritis, the whole 9.

I am now left with facing a knee replacement at way too young an age. Now I do all my own research before I ever see a doctor by the way. I found out that there is such a thing now as a meniscus transplant. That is what I am having done on October 14th. November 1st will mark the 4 year anniversary of my injury.
What kind of ball are you trying to get back to playing?

I want to be able to play hard and for real. I can't really play any other way(I love intensity!). But the truth is, I am more concerned about walking and other normal activities than playing ball.

oohah
geeze.. that blows. I guess the fact that I only played turf sports made a big difference. I had a couple sold knee sprains playing football in my mid 20s. When I was 23 I got hit by a soccer mom in a minivan on my motorcycle hyperextended the same knee and separated the shoulder. The shoulder injury helped up a quick end to the days of full contact football on sundays. If you have ever known how it feels to have a shoulder dislocated you know where I am at. If you have ever had it happen 3 times you REALLY know where I am at.

Make a long story short about 8 years of baseball, football, skiiing, motorcross and crashing the crotch rocket eventually took its toll. I was playing a co-ed pick up game of slow pitch softball and chasing a ball in the outfield the thing just gave out. Snap. Full tear of the ACL, partial tear of the MCL (one your getting replaced) and a tear of the miniscus. The ACL was replaced with a patella tendon graph. It took about 18 months but I'm back to playing center field. Lateral stability is a concern and I've avoided any hoops or pigskin for this reason.

Good luck... its been 6 years since the surgury for me. I can run, and fast. First step is a bit slow but I'm pretty much the fasted guy I know still at 33.


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9/23/2005  8:29 AM
My friend had surgery to repair his horn ACL about 2 1/2 months ago. They had to use part of his hamstring to do a ligament graft too. He was the best athlete I knew before the injury. I really hope for his sake he can eventually return somewhere close to the level he was at before the injury.
I play basketball pretty intensely about twice a week (one day per week in a league). I hope I never have any ligament tears, especially an ACL since that sounds like such a severe injury.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 09-23-2005 08:30 AM]
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9/23/2005  10:12 AM
Posted by fishmike:

Good luck... its been 6 years since the surgury for me. I can run, and fast. First step is a bit slow but I'm pretty much the fasted guy I know still at 33.

Wanna race? I'm pretty fast myself (at 35). It might be fun.
We can have start a pool.
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9/23/2005  10:21 AM
I'm always game. I work in the city have a pair of sneaks for walking to the train. Hell... I will race ya down 5th Ave when the lights change. 50 yard dash is my forte but I can handle 100. Anything longer and I poop out.

I didnt used to think I was very fast. Good speed for sure, but not *fast*
Yet everytime I race a guy I think has bigtime speed I win. I'm kind of just waiting to lose in a way.. go figure.
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9/23/2005  10:41 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by oohah:
i don't want you paying off your steak dinner bet to me with hospital food!

Hey! Wheres your KT prediction?

oohah


Okay, I say 12 and 10. You said 18 and 10, right? So how would this work? I'm not concerned about the boards, it was the points I was really reacting to. If he scores 18 or more a game, I'd say you definitely win, regardless of the boards. If he scores 12 or less, I would think I'd win, again regardless of boards, right? And then if he ends up scoring more than 12 but less than 18 no one wins?


Didn't you guys ever watch "The Price is Right". Marv you should have said 13 points!
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9/23/2005  10:43 AM
Posted by fishmike:

I'm always game. I work in the city have a pair of sneaks for walking to the train. Hell... I will race ya down 5th Ave when the lights change. 50 yard dash is my forte but I can handle 100. Anything longer and I poop out.

I didnt used to think I was very fast. Good speed for sure, but not *fast*
Yet everytime I race a guy I think has bigtime speed I win. I'm kind of just waiting to lose in a way.. go figure.

i think that letterman would want to have his crew handy for this one.
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9/23/2005  10:48 AM
Posted by NYKBocker:

Didn't you guys ever watch "The Price is Right". Marv you should have said 13 points!

you're probably right. KT won't let me down though. he'll come in at a nice solid 11.5!
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