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EnySpree
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9/18/2005  5:06 PM
Posted by tkf:

enyspree: you got me licking my screen man..LOL!!!


Dude I don't even eat meat anymore!!!

I feel tempted to Spice up and George Foman Grill my Hampster after looking at that picture!!!
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9/18/2005  5:08 PM
Eny, that's good. I've been raw vegan for four years. Are you vegeterian or vegan?
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9/18/2005  5:12 PM
Posted by LongIslandKnicksFan:

Eny, that's good. I've been raw vegan for four years. Are you vegeterian or vegan?

I just haven't eaten meat....Looking at all the meat being sold everywhere was starting to sicken me.

I don't drink milk....but i will eat ice cream and cheese. I drink Soy Milk.

What does that classify me under?






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9/18/2005  5:47 PM
Vegeterian. Cut out the dairy and you will be a vegan, heh. BTW, they have a lot of good soy ice creams and different types. If you're in the city, go to: www.purefoodandwine.com or www.raw-q.com and try some raw vegan good. A little pricey, but treat yourself to it. It costs a little more because it's organic and raw fruits and veggies, nuts and seeds, and they make ice cream, pizza, burgers, etc, but you have to go to the sites to see them. It's crazy!
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9/18/2005  6:03 PM
Posted by LongIslandKnicksFan:

Vegeterian. Cut out the dairy and you will be a vegan, heh. BTW, they have a lot of good soy ice creams and different types. If you're in the city, go to: www.purefoodandwine.com or www.raw-q.com and try some raw vegan good. A little pricey, but treat yourself to it. It costs a little more because it's organic and raw fruits and veggies, nuts and seeds, and they make ice cream, pizza, burgers, etc, but you have to go to the sites to see them. It's crazy!

We just took over the thread, lol!!!

From Curry rumors to Vegeterian talk?

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9/18/2005  6:11 PM
don't drink milk? don't eat meat? is this minsheartsreezy? Hoofah.

I like steak. Mmmm. Mmmm. Red meat...taste NOTHING like chicken.
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9/18/2005  6:36 PM
Minisheartsreezy is a vegan? That's awesome if he/she is.
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9/18/2005  6:38 PM
Here is a GREAT article from the Chicago Sun Times.......

http://www.suntimes.com/output/couch/cst-spt-greg09.html

About this test of Curry's DNA ... No way

June 9, 2005

BY GREG COUCH SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

Unless the Bulls are planning to clone Eddy Curry and pay him double, they have no place pressuring him into taking a DNA test.

Let's look at the Bulls' job application form. Name, age, salary demands, experience. Now all we need is a deep look into your biological and chemical makeup, a full screening of all your genetic abnormalities and mutations, and in turn your family's, and we can process your application?

Butt out, Bulls. Even if your heart is in the right place about Curry, and you're just trying to get to the bottom of his heart condition -- and I'm not quite sure that's all this is -- you have dangerously stepped past a health issue and into a privacy issue. Curry is a job applicant, not a steer purchased at auction. These DNA tests give way too much personal information, and you are not entitled to it.

''I know this is a new issue in our business right now,'' Bulls general manager John Paxson said Wednesday. ''There's no road map here to follow. But we're just trying to do what's in the best interest of Eddy Curry.''

But the new ground is going to transcend other sports. If Curry agrees to this DNA test, you don't think other teams are going to start requiring DNA tests for prospective draft picks, just to make sure there's not some potential health risk that could make for a bad investment? Already, at the NFL combine, we hear of athletes poked and prodded, treated like animals. But this takes it 10 giant steps farther.

And what about other businesses? Maybe you wouldn't have gotten your current job if your employer saw in a DNA test that you had a decent chance of a disease.

Science fiction is here. But your DNA is yours. It belongs to you.

Just say no, Eddy.

We know that Curry missed the end of the season with an enlarged heart that occasionally beats irregularly. Lots of people have this arrhythmia, which in itself shouldn't stop him from playing. But Curry is a restricted free agent, meaning other teams can make offers for him this summer and the Bulls must match or let him go.

'An expensive racehorse'

It's possible the Bulls were going to have to pay $10 million a year for five to seven years to keep him. Now they have asked Curry to submit to a DNA test so they can see if he has cardiomyopathy, an excessive buildup of part of the heart muscle that can be fatal.

And it looks like the Bulls are trying to make sure Curry checks out before ponying up $50 million.

''With something like this, you never can tell the motives,'' a cardiologist told me Wednesday. ''But it looks like someone buying an expensive racehorse.''

Paxson resents that. He said the Bulls are in this only for Curry's health, not to kick the tires on a major investment. And for Curry's own good, they want to make sure he's truly OK before clearing him to play.

''We were told by specialists that genetic tests could be helpful in getting information,'' Paxson said. ''All we're going on is what the foremost expert in the country has represented to us. Also, say that 13 years ago this test would have been available for Reggie Lewis. We might not know what would have happened.''

Lewis, a former Boston Celtics star, died from cardiomyopathy.

I talked with two cardiologists and one former chief of surgery at a major hospital Wednesday, and they were mixed on the value of DNA testing to determine cardiomyopathy. Two said there were easier, noninvasive ways of checking. One, Brad Knight, director of electrophysiology at the University of Chicago hospital, said a DNA test would help determine if the enlarged heart was a result of excessive exercise or genetic defect. And that would be important news to Curry.

So let's say the test is helpful to Curry. Fine. But the results can tell stuff way beyond the scope of what the Bulls are entitled to. Did you know that you can tell from a DNA test whether he's likely to have sickle cell anemia? So said a cardiologist. With a DNA test, a woman can find out to 80 percent certainty if she will have breast cancer.

You can go on a fishing expedition if you want. Paxson said the Bulls would have access only to a small amount of results, but it's not a good idea to have your employers messing around with your DNA, searching for answers. And it's a horrible precedent.

No hiding suspicions about Bulls

Maybe Curry should thank the Bulls for their concern, then take their money for the test to his private doctor, letting the Bulls know up front that they never will get the results. Then Curry's health issues are addressed and his privacy safe.

''That's for you to ask Eddy and his representation,'' Paxson said. ''You're trying to put me in position to defend this test, and I'm not going to.''

No. Not to defend the test, but to defend your right to all these detailed results.

''Privacy is a valid point,'' Paxson said.

It's hard not to be suspicious of the Bulls here. They will gain significant financial security from the results of Curry's DNA test. And I can remember Paxson lowering his brow and getting upset late in the season when reporters asked about the specifics of Curry's situation. It was private, he said. It was personal. No more questions.

But now, this whole question about cardiomyopathy and DNA was leaked. And it has driven down Curry's value, and it does pressure him into taking the test.

Maybe that's unfair. Maybe the Bulls are altruistic.

Either way, Eddy, don't give a piece of yourself away. Your peers will follow.

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9/18/2005  8:16 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

I wonder why Curry refused to take the DNA test. Maybe he was afraid the results would be bad and it would push his value down further. Still, his life is on the line. He should do everything possible the experts recommend.
Actually, for all we know he may have had a DNA test with a private doctor if he's concerned about his life, but then decided not to share it with the Bulls.

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9/18/2005  8:21 PM
Posted by Marv:

I don't like Eddie Curry-in-No-Hurry and after Sweetney is done bouncing his ass around like a pinball, Mr. Knick James Bitch will finish him off.
I keep going back and forth on the issue of trading Sweetney for Curry. What's the worst case scenario? I really doubt Sweetney will develop into an all-star. The worst case scenario is probably that we lose a good kid who might become a solid player. Now what's the best case scenario with Curry? With someone with his build, there's basically no limit. It's a huge risk and I probably wouldn't take it without some further confirmation that Curry's heart would be okay, but a smarter risk taker than me might take that risk right now.
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9/18/2005  9:02 PM
listen, they will give you insurance for a LOT of stuff. if curry was healthy, he would get insurance. someone, somewhere would insure it because its a nice premiums. So smart money is saying no, if smart money is saying no, then it's not a good bet, it's a huge expensive risk
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9/18/2005  9:12 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

listen, they will give you insurance for a LOT of stuff. if curry was healthy, he would get insurance. someone, somewhere would insure it because its a nice premiums. So smart money is saying no, if smart money is saying no, then it's not a good bet, it's a huge expensive risk
how huge and how expensive depends on what we're giving up in a sign and trade and what contract we're giving Curry

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9/18/2005  9:31 PM
I'd rather keep sweets and/or use him for a healthy player.
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9/18/2005  9:49 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by BRIGGS:

listen, they will give you insurance for a LOT of stuff. if curry was healthy, he would get insurance. someone, somewhere would insure it because its a nice premiums. So smart money is saying no, if smart money is saying no, then it's not a good bet, it's a huge expensive risk
how huge and how expensive depends on what we're giving up in a sign and trade and what contract we're giving Curry


that's exactly why you don't give up sweetney for him - sweets has VALUE.
you move someone like mo taylor or malik rose since they clearly have no place for the future of this franchise. you can then give curry a 2 year deal at $20 mil (it's only money since we're over the cap anyway) with a TEAM OPTION for a 3rd year. so if we want to get under the cap in 07, we still have the option and if he's good for 2 years, then a 3rd year for $10 mil would be a bargain.

mo taylor or malik rose - NOBODY ELSE's NAME should every come up in a discussion for him.
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9/18/2005  9:52 PM
why would the bulls do that? why would they spend $20 mil on Malik or Mo? It's not like they'd be taking off $20 mil from they payroll by giving up another player with a guaranteed contract. They'd be literally adding $20 mil just to acquire Malik or Mo.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 09-18-2005 9:53 PM]
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9/18/2005  10:05 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

why would the bulls do that? why would they spend $20 mil on Malik or Mo? It's not like they'd be taking off $20 mil from they payroll by giving up another player with a guaranteed contract. They'd be literally adding $20 mil just to acquire Malik or Mo.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 09-18-2005 9:53 PM]

so the question is, are we willing to give up more than that for a guy with a possibly serious medical condition, and some big flaws in his game and attitude? if not, then basically, no deal. i wouldn't really regret it.
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9/18/2005  10:07 PM
Cuz when they got 7,000 children in the house on a sunday afternoon for Will Purdue Bobble head give away and Curry drops dead in the paint they won't have to offer child phychiatric serviece along with a Free Frostie from Wendys to bring fans back!

Bulls im sure are trying for NENE, and Pao for him. Lots of luck.

Curry is cheap, or don't bring him! Bulls are losing leverage.
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9/18/2005  10:09 PM
Did you know that Knicks Scrub Ronnie Grandison was a raw vegan? Just a little useless trivia, ha.

Anyway, I don't know about packaging a lot of the young players. If Curry is good to go, I agree, he will be our backup center due to him being unhealthy. Him and Sweets in the front court, together...Not bad. Doubt it would happen though.
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9/18/2005  10:20 PM
i thought of a deal they might be down with[not saying i want to do it but here goes]

Charlotte gets Eric Piatkowski a Knicks #1 pick from the Spurs and 1.5mm in cash

Chicago gets Melvin Ely Mike Sweetney and Jackie butler + 1.5mm in cash

NY gets Eddie Curry S+T to the same deal Kwame got
3 yrs 24mm$ with the third yr a team option Curry's deal starts at 7.02 so it works within 20%
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9/18/2005  10:21 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

why would the bulls do that? why would they spend $20 mil on Malik or Mo? It's not like they'd be taking off $20 mil from they payroll by giving up another player with a guaranteed contract. They'd be literally adding $20 mil just to acquire Malik or Mo.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 09-18-2005 9:53 PM]



you're right, the bulls should not do it unless they're afraid to lose him for nothing. i'm saying that's what WE should offer them.

what they should do is re-sign him for the qualifying offer, let him play out the year and let him walk.
jamal should get in his ear and bring him here for the 3 year MLE deal next offseason if he can still play.

this dude is VERY HIGH RISK and there are red flags galore.

there's a risk with a guy like kwame b/c of where his head is at or nagging injuries, then there's a risk with not only a head case but someone that could never play again.
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