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Knicks ranked 20th in offeseason Power Rankings
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nyballer
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9/20/2005  1:11 PM
Posted by Caseloads:
Posted by nyballer:

I think we might be better than Seattle, and Minnesota might take some time to mesh (although the fact that they have garnett should mean they will be better than us). Golden state played a lot better with baron davis and jason richardson - i got to see them a lot since i go to school in the bay area, and they have a decent front court. I think we will move up to maybe 14 by the end of the year, but there is no team ahead of us that I can say we will definitely be better than, and the fact that we are ahead of the clips, lakers, and jazz shows that this isn't really biased. In honesty, everyone thinks their team will be a lot better than the previous season, but we will havea general idea of who improved after we see the first 20 games who really improved.
where do you go to school out there in the bay area?


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9/20/2005  1:54 PM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by fishmike:

just like last year right RV?
So you have to change the entire direction of rebuilding because of one disappointing season?

Seems like Isiah did. Last year he rebuffed publically we rebuilding. Now it looks like rebuilding, but in "knick style".

It is what it is.
LOL... exactly. I'm just going by what our GM had told us. Last year you can never rebuild in NY and this market wont support it. Then when he struck out on Dampier and some of the plus age 30 players started breaking down en route to 33 wins he traded for picks and said we are rebuilding.

Actually whatever Bonn says happened, is what happened.


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9/20/2005  3:32 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by franco12:

These rankings look like a fair assessment- while we got better, so did a lot of other teams.

Agreed. We're still pretty weak in the frontcourt, while many of the teams ranked higher have better frontcourts.
I think that's gonna depend on how Sweetney and Frye develop and whether TT plays better in a contract year. I wouldn't be shocked if he at least returned to the 16/5 player with mediocre defense that he was as a Knick two years ago, which would be a huge improvement from last year. I think we both agree that the Knicks improved but not enough to move up substantially in the power rankings. I think they're closer to being an average team (39 to 43 wins) right now and would have ranked them slightly higher than 20. I'm still optimistic that the team will be improved after Isiah uses the trade assets. I highly doubt he plans to just let the epiring contracts expire--that's obviously not his (or Dolan's) style.




[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 09-20-2005 12:09 AM]

That's probably fair. I don't have much faith in Frye, but even despite that, I don't see Frye contributing much just because he's a rookie and we have a history of not giving big minutes to rookies, even when they deserve it (case in point, Ariza). As for Tim Thomas, I could see him playing better in a contract year, but I don't think he'll get 32-34 mpg like in past years.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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9/20/2005  4:26 PM
there are too many players:
Marbury/Crawford
Q/Nate/Penny
TT/Ariza
Sweetney/Rose/Mo T/Lee
JJ/Frye/Butler

Nobody really plays 10 guys. Maybe Memphis did, but even if your team is deep your better off rotating 8-9 guys. Maybe you have a 10th guy thats like a JYD type player that comes in and give you 7-8 minutes of energy every night.

Bottom line is we are going to have some guy riding pine and some guys people are counting on riding that pine. I'm with Solace based on Knick history I think is the rooks. You can tell me new management all the time but LB like savy old guys same as JVG did.
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9/20/2005  4:53 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by fishmike:

just like last year right RV?
So you have to change the entire direction of rebuilding because of one disappointing season?

Seems like Isiah did. Last year he rebuffed publically we rebuilding. Now it looks like rebuilding, but in "knick style".

It is what it is.
LOL... exactly. I'm just going by what our GM had told us.

I never go by what GMs tell the public. It was obviously he was building (or rebuilding if you prefer) for both the present and future from the beginning by getting a combination of young players and veterans.
Knicks ranked 20th in offeseason Power Rankings

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