Posted by Bobby:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Bobby:

[quote] the whole goal is to get rid of malik rose for an ending contract, i could care less if it was clarence weatherspoon

i don't think larry brown would take that goal too kindly

It depends on how Isiah told Larry he intended to use the expiring contract

We need to go big in the draft again next year--we dont need malik rose--follow the spurs--if a team thinks malik rose is the answer-let them have him--are we winning anything with malik rose at F? No we still have to many and we dont know if we any of them are the right ones--if the spurs thought enough of malik to slary dump him, even throwing in 2 picks to do it, get a clue

Posted by Bobby:

We need to go big in the draft again next year--we dont need malik rose--follow the spurs--if a team thinks malik rose is the answer-let them have him--are we winning anything with malik rose at F? No we still have to many and we dont know if we any of them are the right ones--if the spurs thought enough of malik to slary dump him, even throwing in 2 picks to do it, get a clue

look here, it has yet to be determine whether we can win with rose, mo or sweetney in a larry brown system. give it a chance but the last thing we should do is surround starbury with failure because of chemistry and talent just so we can wait for your post on how to trade starbury for the next 5 draft picks. we haven't played one friggn' game and your crystal ball is already beaming on next year's draft picks......way to go scout

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Bobby:

We need to go big in the draft again next year--we dont need malik rose--follow the spurs--if a team thinks malik rose is the answer-let them have him--are we winning anything with malik rose at F? No we still have to many and we dont know if we any of them are the right ones--if the spurs thought enough of malik to slary dump him, even throwing in 2 picks to do it, get a clue

look here, it has yet to be determine whether we can win with rose, mo or sweetney in a larry brown system. give it a chance but the last thing we should do is surround starbury with failure because of chemistry and talent just so we can wait for your post on how to trade starbury for the next 5 draft picks. we haven't played one friggn' game and your crystal ball is already beaming on next year's draft picks......way to go scout

I see the line up as

C-James
F Frye
F T Thomas
G Marbury
G Crawford
F Taylor
F Sweetney
F Ariza
G Richardson
G Nate

I actually see Kandiman as a more important piece as a third C than Malik as option 5 up front for 6mm per for 3 more. I like the idea of starting 3 guys 6-10+ with Crawford moved to PG and Marbury as the SG. Off the bench you bring Sweetney when James picks up foul 2, move Frye to 5 and replace him with Mo. Were still playing a *4* out of position any time James is out of the game because Id rather see Frye as a 4 who can spot at 5.

But if we go down the list of what exactly we have at the F spot, malik rose is WAY down the food chain. we acquired him, gave him PT and after the first 4 game high, dumped the rest of the season. You want to make sure a guy like Lee and Ariza, who, imho have a bigger and much more important role for the future of the Knicks get Malik's PT. At the deadline, we would have a 6mm$ ending contract--presently we only have major league big one's. It makes sense in a lot of ways. I appreciate that he is a leader, but we are paying Larry brown 10+mm a year to do that.

Posted by Caseloads:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Bobby:

We need to go big in the draft again next year--we dont need malik rose--follow the spurs--if a team thinks malik rose is the answer-let them have him--are we winning anything with malik rose at F? No we still have to many and we dont know if we any of them are the right ones--if the spurs thought enough of malik to slary dump him, even throwing in 2 picks to do it, get a clue

look here, it has yet to be determine whether we can win with rose, mo or sweetney in a larry brown system. give it a chance but the last thing we should do is surround starbury with failure because of chemistry and talent just so we can wait for your post on how to trade starbury for the next 5 draft picks. we haven't played one friggn' game and your crystal ball is already beaming on next year's draft picks......way to go scout

I see the line up as

C-James
F Frye
F T Thomas
G Marbury
G Crawford
F Taylor
F Sweetney
F Ariza
G Richardson
G Nate

I actually see Kandiman as a more important piece as a third C than Malik as option 5 up front for 6mm per for 3 more. I like the idea of starting 3 guys 6-10+ with Crawford moved to PG and Marbury as the SG. Off the bench you bring Sweetney when James picks up foul 2, move Frye to 5 and replace him with Mo. Were still playing a *4* out of position any time James is out of the game because Id rather see Frye as a 4 who can spot at 5.

But if we go down the list of what exactly we have at the F spot, malik rose is WAY down the food chain. we acquired him, gave him PT and after the first 4 game high, dumped the rest of the season. You want to make sure a guy like Lee and Ariza, who, imho have a bigger and much more important role for the future of the Knicks get Malik's PT. At the deadline, we would have a 6mm$ ending contract--presently we only have major league big one's. It makes sense in a lot of ways. I appreciate that he is a leader, but we are paying Larry brown 10+mm a year to do that.

true... we are paying larry to do the leadership, but you need someone on the court to be the good soldier too.

Posted by Bobby:

brendan suhr conference call

concerning the cap/luxury tax

Brendan Suhr: Absolutely. My best advice to fans is since they don't have to pay it, don't worry about it. Worry about the talent that we have, not how much we're paying.

my point is...... getting rid of expiring contract is one thing. surrounding our players with talent while trying to turn an expiring contract raises my concern. why? if we do not turn kandi's trade to our advantage don't say we'll wait for the draft to make ammends. every move this team makes should be in a win now situation with talent acquisition the top priority.....imo, kandi is not that talent

Posted by Caseloads:

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by Bobby:

brendan suhr conference call

concerning the cap/luxury tax

[quote] Brendan Suhr: Absolutely. My best advice to fans is since they don't have to pay it, don't worry about it. Worry about the talent that we have, not how much we're paying.

my point is...... getting rid of expiring contract is one thing. surrounding our players with talent while trying to turn an expiring contract raises my concern. why? if we do not turn kandi's trade to our advantage don't say we'll wait for the draft to make ammends. every move this team makes should be in a win now situation with talent acquisition the top priority.....imo, kandi is not that talent

that's pretty hypocritical of Suhr to say when he doesn't have to buy tickets to the games.



that said, I'm all for ditching Malik. David lee and Frye need to play. If they can't hack it, we need more picks and we need to go big again in the draft next year. Playing Malik just slows down the development of Frye and Lee and even Ariza (Rose can play some SF...ugh). I don't want Larry Brown to have the option of using the "grizzled veteran" just to win three more games this season.

Posted by BRIGGS:

said, I'm all for ditching Malik. David lee and Frye need to play. If they can't hack it, we need more picks and we need to go big again in the draft next year. Playing Malik just slows down the development of Frye and Lee and even Ariza (Rose can play some SF...ugh). I don't want Larry Brown to have the option of using the "grizzled veteran" just to win three more games this season.



agree 100% he didnt lose MSG for months last year, he doesnt pay for tickets, the free spending ways have made the team worse, not better, its when you free spend you over-compenate guys like weatherspoon or a jerome james just because you can do it, but that might not make you better. im also a litle fuzzy on how big game is going to break out like this guy says, how EVERY stat says he has NO chance of playing 30+ minutes a game due to his foul trouble--like it will magically go away

and right on about malik--if they want to keep him-cool, but he isnt helping us win anything at 7mm per year

My thoughts exactly. But I have to admit that I have never liked rose, not even when he was younger.

Posted by BRIGGS:


All those bigs are good. Sheldan Williams will end up top 5 in the lottery. Paul Millsap is a Ben Wallace type C, undersized, probably play the 4, but he is rugged, an Oakley Wallace dare I say Rodman type rebounder. Jason Smith is a guy who will come on this year and has an outside chance at a 1 pick, but so do a lot of guys right now, there is no clear cut 1. I noticed Smith watching Bogut. He's the same height as Bogut, but he's more athletic, but with less skill and weight. One of the first things you notice is that the guy gives 110% and he can do things at 7 feet+--like handle the ball,we'll have to see. Id expect him to be in the 20-10 range this year and people will know his name by the end of the NCAA year. A lot of these guys you can classify as 4-5. I like that kid from Indiana DJ White too, but hes more power 3.