Posted by fishmike:

Posted by djsunyc:

kinda like zach randolph right. funny how all of the sudden he just exploded, you know, when he finally got minutes and was given the ball.

nobody's saying sweetney will become elton brand.
heck, even if he ends up being a 6th man for his career that's fine too.

the thing that irks me is that we have to really see what he is. give him the ball and see what he can do. then it's all on him - either he has the talent or not. he has shown, so far, that he does have the talent but for some odd reason, they let tim keep shooting even though he's been incosistent his entire career yet won't go to sweets down low 10-15 times a game for a good 10 game stretch.

we'll see if he's part of the long term plans and where he fits in this season.

I was really mind numbing to me why at the end of the year we were still featuring KT and only getting Sweetney 20 minutes or so a game. We we eliminated, yet we never took an 8 or 10 game stretch to see what Sweetney would do if featured for 30 minutes, or what Ariza would do with 30 minutes on the floor for a legit 10 game stretch.

I think Sweetney's foul issues a overblown. I think if he actually played more he would foul less. Look at his game log, he certainly has some games where fouls are an issue, but he's got just as many games with 0,1 or 2 fouls and he still only logged 15-20 minutes.

His 30+ minute games
vs. Atl 6-8 16/2 and 6 fouls in 31 minutes
vs. Indy 8-15 20/9 and 2 fouls in 37 minutes
vs. GS 9-12 19/7 and 4 fouls in 28 minutes
vs. LA 9-15 19/12 and 4 fouls in 30 minutes
vs. Phili 2-5 10/9 and 3 fouls in 32 minutes
vs. Bos 5-10 19/5 and 0 fouls in 28 minutes
vs Utah 6-7 15/9 and 6 fouls in 30 minutes
vs Mil 6-13 14/11 and 3 fouls in 37 minutes
vs LAC 4-8 14/9 and 1 fouls in 31 minutes
vs Bos 7-12 18/5 and 2 fouls in32 minutes

those are his 10 games he played the most. I didnt pick his best games, just the ones he got the most minutes.
31.6 minutes, 3.1 fouls 16.4 points, 7.8 boards, shooting 60-105 total and 57% FGs

All I can say is wow. Those are off the charts numbers. Its 10 games but I take something from this, and thats the more time Sweetney is on the floor, the LESS he fouls and more productive he becomes. He played 33 minutes a game at GTown and was double and tripled every time down the floor. If you watched him there his pattern was to hustle down the floor, get immediate position in the post and attack the rim early in the possesion. You could see him doing that with us but the guard simply didnt get him the ball and he would have to do everything from a set offense.

When this guy plays he puts up MAJOR numbers. Look at his game log.. its not like he had all these 10-18 minute games because of fouls. They just didnt play him enough.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?statsId=3712

Posted by Nalod:

Posted by simrud:

I totally agree about the early post feed that we did not do at all. Sweetney would run down the court, be like 5 feet away from the baset, and freakin Marbury would act like he doesnt see him and jus dribble it out on the top of the key before everybody else and their mom got down the court.

And that happened like 2-3 times every game. We need to use the early post offense from Sweetney, it will only help out fastbreak and defensive rebounding as the bigs will have to worry about getting back in time to pevent Sweetney from establishign deep post early on the break.

Marbs would frequently ignore Reezy in the lane. 20 and 8 seemed more important then anything else.

Reason Marbs numbers were inflated in losses was cuz he wanted in junk minutes to inflate his numbers. I hope winning and team chemistry take priority over Marbs trying to secure Oscar Robertson type numbers.

I love Ariza, but by the end of the season I think every team caught on to him. 'Yeah the kid with no jump shot, so let me just stand right here and draw the charge.' That young man is in desperate need of any sort of jumper.

Also, as far as protesting the banner, my call wouldn't be to include Frye or Sweetney but to find out the marketing genius who replaced "All Ball" with "Click Here For Tickets" Is that suppose to be the team slogan this year? Those guys aren't that bright.

Posted by Pharzeone:


Also, as far as protesting the banner, my call wouldn't be to include Frye or Sweetney but to find out the marketing genius who replaced "All Ball" with "Click Here For Tickets" Is that suppose to be the team slogan this year? Those guys aren't that bright.

In all honesty, with the amount of attention that this stupid banner is getting, thats probably the best place on the whole Knicks site for there to be anything about "Getting Tickets." This is honestly like the 3rd article I've seen that included talk about no big men being on that stupid banner. WHO CARES, but people obviously do.

Posted by Allanfan20:

Notably, the least impressive of those games, but hey, 6-8 is still a good job no matter how he gets the point. You create attention.

This is why the end of last season was such a disaster. We could have gotton Sweetney and Ariza to bigger minutes while the vets rested, but it was absolutely imperitive to win the 3 extra games, shooting away any shot at that #5 spot (Bogut) and just putting a little more rust and sag on Sweetney. It's obvious that when Sweetney is playing a big role, he's helping the team out a lot, but NY just hasn't trusted it's youngies lately, and I think you can point your fingers to the coaching instability. Why should the coach take any risks if he knows his job is on the line. But now we have Brown, so that's no longer an excuse. If we're not gonna ultilize him, we might as well just trade him.

Posted by fishmike:

nobody questioned KTs minutes. The question is why with in a toilet season were we seeing TT/Rose/Mo T playing more minutes than Ariza and Sweetney.

Either we are commited to being "young and athletic" or we arent.