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EnySpree
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8/12/2005  10:37 PM
Diop would be a nice pick up. Dude can block shots. That is a given. He is not a stiff either he just has no basketball IQ.....meaning he has no clue what he should be doing until someone drives the lane. I would love to give him a chance. LLE is what he is worth.

Butler by the way is a power fwd. He showed me enough to believe in him during the summer league. He's a nasty, kind of a throw back player. I would love to see him eventually get in the Knicks rotation over Rose, JYD and Taylor. Butler is coming along nicely.
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8/13/2005  9:45 AM
After today's article, the news is out that the Knicks worked him out... LLE is safe enough to add more shotblocks.
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8/13/2005  10:23 AM
From today's Post:
The Knicks have interest in 7-foot, 280-pound free-agent center DeSagana Diop and they worked him out yesterday in Westchester.

He averaged just 7.5 minutes per game last season, averaging one point and one rebound, but he's only 23.

Who broke the story on realgm? I'm guessing it was zeke206.

Anyways, Diop gets a big 'whatever' from me. We don't have roster space for this guy and yes, he'd be a bigger project than Butler. Guess it can't hurt to take a 1 year, LLE flier but the odds of a real payoff seem astronomically slim.
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8/13/2005  10:29 AM
Diop is 7'0". Diop is young (23). Diop is a C.

Im ok, give him a try, what do we lose? Get him for the LLE and if it doesn't work out, sorry for him, we move on.

And whats the issue with Butler vs. Diop? Butler is a PF, unfortunately. But he shoewd something in SL to be worth keeping around. If you don't keep him in the NBA, send him to the NBDL while they experiment with Diop. He wont get any PT with our PFs so its not really a concern...
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8/13/2005  10:30 AM
And on RealGM its mentioned that Diop had a good showing in SL. Anyone knows about that?
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8/13/2005  11:49 AM
Except on this board, I have never seen Butler considered as a PF anywhere. (Well, people already consider Frye a PF)
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8/13/2005  11:54 AM
Posted by tomverve:

From today's Post:
The Knicks have interest in 7-foot, 280-pound free-agent center DeSagana Diop and they worked him out yesterday in Westchester.

He averaged just 7.5 minutes per game last season, averaging one point and one rebound, but he's only 23.

Who broke the story on realgm? I'm guessing it was zeke206.

Anyways, Diop gets a big 'whatever' from me. We don't have roster space for this guy and yes, he'd be a bigger project than Butler. Guess it can't hurt to take a 1 year, LLE flier but the odds of a real payoff seem astronomically slim.

no it wasn't zeke, it was some other poster who lives in Florida.
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8/13/2005  6:40 PM
I love Zeke's approach this season. He knows that we need size and he is trying his best to address it. Diop was a first round pick and needs good coaching to get him to play some good basketball. There were some of you who wanted to have Kwame in N.Y. for a lot more, why not give Diop a chance for a very cheap price?
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8/13/2005  7:26 PM
I'm willing to give Diop that chance. Under Larry's tutelage, he can become a solid contributor off the bench for us.
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8/13/2005  7:30 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

I'm willing to give Diop that chance. Under Larry's tutelage, he can become a solid contributor off the bench for us.

we should totally get Diop... let's see if he has any game under Larry. We need size.
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8/13/2005  8:39 PM
We don't need him for any offense, so if we can focus on working with him to improve his D, then it would be worth it. He basically has to learn the same things JJ does. How not to foul. Just be a presence and get those hands up, then blockout your man for the rebound. If we're successful in doin that much then he'd be worth it.
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8/13/2005  8:46 PM
getting Diop now is like getting Bynum four years into his "development"....
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8/13/2005  8:53 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

getting Diop now is like getting Bynum four years into his "development"....
definitely. Diop is like an extra lotto draft pick
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8/13/2005  9:24 PM
I think if we get Diop we'll finally be getting another first round draft pick type of player - and I don't think that's what jackie butler is, even though many people here disagree. I think Diop has much better size and much more potential - cleveland also has not been very good at developing their young players - this year luke jackson didn't do very well and i think a lot more was expected from anderson varejao even though he had some good showings. Dajuan wagner was a major bust even though some of that can be chalked up to injury. Diop would also get a good amount of time because I don't think Jerome James is going to be out on the court more than 20 minutes because of foul trouble and I also think Frye will have difficulties playing the 5. All that being said, Diop has been in the league and has bust written all over him, but for a small amount of money there's really no risk in getting him. it really can't be worse than playing mo taylor or sweetney at center for 5 minutes a game.
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8/14/2005  1:52 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

getting Diop now is like getting Bynum four years into his "development"....

Uhhhh Crzy, be careful, you don't want to start another Bynum controversy, do you? LOL
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8/14/2005  3:17 AM
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by crzymdups:

getting Diop now is like getting Bynum four years into his "development"....

Uhhhh Crzy, be careful, you don't want to start another Bynum controversy, do you? LOL

we'll see about that when Bynum posts between rookie numbers than the 22yr old Frye as a 18yr old as a Laker

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 08/14/2005 03:18:07]
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8/14/2005  3:20 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by crzymdups:

getting Diop now is like getting Bynum four years into his "development"....

Uhhhh Crzy, be careful, you don't want to start another Bynum controversy, do you? LOL

we'll see about that when Bynum posts between rookie numbers than the 22yr old Frye as a 18yr old as a Laker

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 08/14/2005 03:18:07]

I'm surprised at you guns! All that talk of Bynum b4, I'd think you'd be happy about the possibility of adding Diop.
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8/14/2005  7:06 AM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by crzymdups:

getting Diop now is like getting Bynum four years into his "development"....

Uhhhh Crzy, be careful, you don't want to start another Bynum controversy, do you? LOL

we'll see about that when Bynum posts between rookie numbers than the 22yr old Frye as a 18yr old as a Laker

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 08/14/2005 03:18:07]

I'm surprised at you guns! All that talk of Bynum b4, I'd think you'd be happy about the possibility of adding Diop.
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8/14/2005  7:17 AM
Realgm has a quote from the Dallas Morning News saying that the Mavs are also interested in Diop
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8/14/2005  11:25 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by crzymdups:

getting Diop now is like getting Bynum four years into his "development"....

Uhhhh Crzy, be careful, you don't want to start another Bynum controversy, do you? LOL

we'll see about that when Bynum posts between rookie numbers than the 22yr old Frye as a 18yr old as a Laker

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 08/14/2005 03:18:07]

Ok, its enough. We'll wait and see what happen...
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