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djsunyc
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8/9/2005  2:30 PM
i think the thing you guys are not taking into account is that in the summer of 07, lebron is RESTRICTED. so cleveland can match any offer to him. he could easily sign a one year QO and become UNRESTRICTED after the 07/08 season. so in essence, it's 3 full seasons away if we're talking about cap space. otherwise, it would most likely be a sign and trade after the 06/07 season.
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8/9/2005  2:34 PM
and no GM will want to go down in history as the guy that traded Lebron. LBJ will become eligible for a max extension next winter and he will sign one, just like Amare will.
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8/9/2005  2:40 PM
I agree with firefly and Nalod on most things. Especially, Lebron will go where Lebron wants to go and not where Cleveland wants him to go. Its hard to say right now but it all depends on Lebron.
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nykbasketball
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8/9/2005  2:42 PM
fish

if lebron comes a unrestricted FA then his endorsements (nike) will be pushing for him to go to ny like they did with kobe

they even would have doubled his contract w/ them if he went

i read it a while back and i cant remember what its from and theres some proof with kobe


why they would want him to go to a big city:
great for advertising
makes them more $$$$
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djsunyc
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8/9/2005  2:46 PM
Posted by nykbasketball:

fish

if lebron comes a unrestricted FA then his endorsements (nike) will be pushing for him to go to ny like they did with kobe

they even would have doubled his contract w/ them if he went

i read it a while back and i cant remember what its from and theres some proof with kobe


why they would want him to go to a big city:
great for advertising
makes them more $$$$

i find it VERY hard to see anybody passing up signing a MAX extension, even if they don't intend on staying. why? b/c if you get hurt the following season, you're career could be over.

he WILL sign the max and if he wants out, will force a S&T, like many did before him, most recently vince carter and tmac.
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8/9/2005  2:47 PM
Do I think Lebron will pass up great money to take a little more money with complications. No. Why would he risk just playing out a qualifying offer. Can we be so sure that Lebron is on page because its not like we can contact him and say hey you just sign the qualifier for the year and wink wink. Stern would have tampering charges flying all around. I mean Lebron will have to do something pretty outrageous to make it clear to the Cavs that no means no, and I just don't see it. They went out and got the players he asked for the most part. They are trying to win for him. And it is home for him. I know it sucks but Lebron is where he belongs (the powers that be that allowed Cleveland to tank games without someone calling them out because of the greater interest of the league blah blah blah).
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8/9/2005  2:56 PM
Isles, you finally reveal yourself as a guy who isn't a Knicks fan and just likes to push buttons. "If he joins, I'll leave the board for good." Why? Because the Knicks will finally be good and you won't be able to contradict everyone on everything. What a poser, get a life.

Secondly, trying to put a percentage of probability on something like this is impossible. Who would've thought that Shaq got dealt for .70 on the dollar like he did with Miami, that Team USA would finish with a bronze, or that ARod would be on the Yankees. These are the type of things that happen after a series of other events.

It'd be stupid for the Knicks to cut a bunch of cap and then go after LeBron, because he isn't going to want to sign onto a team that is rebuilding (which the Knicks certainly will be doing if they don't have anybody under contract). Likewise, if CLE s&t's LBJ, it'll be for, what, a bevy of draft picks, expiring contracts, and young talent? So what will that leave the Knicks? Once again, they'd be rebuilding.

I think it pretty much all depends on the next few years with Cleveland. If Hughes and he become a solid tandem, Ilgauskas keeps holding it down, they get a legit PG, etc, and the Cavs are in contention or win a title, I find it hard to believe that LeBron would want to leave. How much more money could this guy make? He's already worth hundreds of millions and not even old enough to drink. I find it hard to imagine that he'll be swayed to go to a new team and rebuild just to make a few more bucks when he already has like half a billion dollars in his bank account, it just doesn't make any sense. Not to mention Cleveland is his hometown.

[Edited by - bigsm00th on 08/09/2005 14:57:51]
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djsunyc
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8/9/2005  2:57 PM
Posted by BigSm00th:

Isles, you finally reveal yourself as a guy who isn't a Knicks fan and just likes to push buttons. "If he joins, I'll leave the board for good." Why? Because the Knicks will finally be good and you won't be able to contradict everyone on everything. What a poser, get a life.

Secondly, trying to put a percentage of probability on something like this is impossible. Who would've thought that Shaq got dealt for .70 on the dollar like he did with Miami, or that Bush would get elected again,, or that ARod would be on the Yankees. These are the type of things that happen after a series of other events.

It'd be stupid for the Knicks to cut a bunch of cap and then go after LeBron, because he isn't going to want to sign onto a team that is rebuilding (which the Knicks certainly will be doing if they don't have anybody under contract). Likewise, if CLE s&t's LBJ, it'll be for, what, a bevy of draft picks, expiring contracts, and young talent? So what will that leave the Knicks? Once again, they'd be rebuilding.

I think it pretty much all depends on the next few years with Cleveland. If Hughes and he become a solid tandem, Ilgauskas keeps holding it down, they get a legit PG, etc, and the Cavs are in contention or win a title, I find it hard to believe that LeBron would stay. How much more money could this guy make? He's already worth hundreds of millions and not even old enough to drink. I find it hard to imagine that he'll be swayed to go to a new team and rebuild just to make a few more bucks when he already has like half a billion dollars in his bank account, it just doesn't make any sense.

b/c he has to feed his kids.
nykbasketball
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8/9/2005  3:01 PM
knicks would have to get rid of marbury penny mo t houston jyd and malik, and dont sign any more 100 mil conracts to the houstons of the nba to get under cap

there roster if they sign lebron and get rid of the people above consists of

nate
lebron
q
frye
jj

bench
craw
lee
ariza
and whoever else they get in that time
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