Posted by bobs3304:

I actually lost respect for you with this Artest thread.


As far as I'm concerned, smart Knick fans know what's realistic and what's not.


Far be it from me to tell you right from wrong. So instead, you can just wait 9 months to find out for yourself, and when Artest is still in a Pacers uniform, I'm sure you'll come around too.


Listen to TooDark. He knows whats going on.

Too dark agrees with you, he must know whats going on!!!

Your respect is totally valueless, so you can lose it, find it, or store it away somewhere, I really don't give a ****.

furthermore, if you or TooDark read my post more carefully this wasn't about whether or not it will happen, its about whether the package a proposed seems like a fair deal. Read:

but my point was not whether he was on the block or not, but whether this trade seemed fair or not. Hypothetically speaking if he was being shopped, is this something they would consider in you guys' opinion?

so like you love telling people, re-read the post before you make a knee-jerk response!

how bout nate robinson and bruno 4 danny granger?

Yeah it was last year when there were some trade talk about Artest. I saw an interview from his car where he stated all this. No to NYC, they had their chance. Broke my heart then, since Artest is my second fav player in the NBA. I still cry when I hear Weiss' name.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Who cares what teams tell the media about Artest or any player? What a GM tells the media is strictly comedy as far as I'm concerned.

Artest has stated he does not want to play in NYC

I have NEVER heard him say this or seen any reports indicating this

The at the end was just pointless.


As far as your "trade" goes, is it fair talent-wise? Ehh, not quite. Indiana gets quantity, but doesn't make up the loss of quality.

Strictly talent-wise, they could get a far better deal.


When you take into account how unrealistic it is though, does it even matter if it's fair or not? Some of you really like to argue that there's no way to predict or rationalize anything. What are you - a bunch of lawyers?

OF COURSE you can predict and rationalize things. Just b/c Shaq got traded doesn't mean KG will. It always depends on the circumstances. The quality of the player has nothing to do with it.

Without Artest, the Pacers don't have a chance. But if for some unforseen reason they do trade him, Crawford, Sweetney, and the rest of that crap-ackage wouldn't make up for his loss, not one bit. If you're trading Artest, it's for a player of equal talent or not at all. And you better have a good reason for doing it in the first place. The fact that the Pacers have verbally expressed their desire to stick by Ron and even gave him the green light to play in the SL says to me that he's not going anywhere.

But I guess you're right - dreaming is fun, and anything and everything is possible.


HEY....ANYONE UP FOR PENNY FOR GASOL? Oh.....wait, Isiah already tried that one.

Shoot.

[Edited by - BOBS3304 on 08/03/2005 21:37:53]

Posted by Marv:

Here's a freebie for anyone feeling like flaming - I don't want no f'g part of no ron f'g artest!!!!

Don't even give him away free to me!

People talk about cancers on teams - how many more MRI's or PET scans do you need to diagnose this guy?

Wasn't it enough when he threw away the '04 series against Detorit with his infamous inability to handle any pressure?

No? So you preferred his preseason '04 BS about quitting to promote his cd's?

Well if that wasn't enough I'm sure you lovedlhis chickenshyte performance against Ben Wallace that he had to elevaate to riot status cuz he wan't big enough to face Ben after he cheap-shotted him?

Keep him! I'm a mad St. Johns fan and he's the ONLY player from them I've ever hated.

so marv, what exactly are you trying to say?

one thing for sure, when he plays, ron artest is arguably a top 10 player in the league.

but could also very easily become one of those "whatever happened to..." cases.

enough with the Artest BS......it's not happening