Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by franco12:

I thought they were getting rid of Q so they could re-sign Amare & JJ?

I dunno, I think they would have kept Q & pick 21 if they knew they were loosing JJ for Hawk retreads. I love KT, but he ain't that good!

Raja Bell is a better player than Q, other than rebounding, Bell is superior in almost every way, with the biggest difference on the D.

Briggs, are you drinking that purple stuff again? come on man, Q is a rare throw back type of SG, he can hit the outside shot, but he has a rare post game for a SG, he can be nasty in the post,and he is a pretty smart player...

Posted by tkf:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by franco12:

I thought they were getting rid of Q so they could re-sign Amare & JJ?

I dunno, I think they would have kept Q & pick 21 if they knew they were loosing JJ for Hawk retreads. I love KT, but he ain't that good!

Raja Bell is a better player than Q, other than rebounding, Bell is superior in almost every way, with the biggest difference on the D.

Briggs, are you drinking that purple stuff again? come on man, Q is a rare throw back type of SG, he can hit the outside shot, but he has a rare post game for a SG, he can be nasty in the post,and he is a pretty smart player...

Q richardson played on one of the highest scoring teams in the history of the league and shot 39%, in fact he hasnt shot even 40% for 3 years. He doesnt play D-- he is a poor ballhandler--and boy where was he in the playoffs? What could be worse than a 6-6 230 pound guard shooting an average of 38% the last 3 years--yeah hes a throwback, he makes guys like walt fraizer and earl monroe shake in the pants knowing how poorly discplined this guy is!

They didnt get rid of him becauseof JJ--they did it because they wanted to put a good who plays D next to Amare and they were able to dump Q to do it. Tell me exactly what money did they save when they traded Q for KT and signed Raja Bell? None--they were so desperate to get rid of Q they threw in pick 21. People really tend to over rate players. this move and the JJ move are two different deals--whether JJ stayed or left, nOTHING in this deal helped pay for JJ staying--this was a move to get rid of Q--the weak link and put some quality size next to Stoudemire. the saving grace here is nate, for nate ill take the inconsistent Q who is destined for the bench.

He never said Bell was better. But I've seen the Suns many times this year, and Q is NOT a good defender, and I, along with Briggs, was terribly dissapointed with the way Q (Along with Marion) played in the playoffs. Well, more so the finals for Marion. It was almost Keith Van Horn like. Like I said, I'm rooting Q on, but I think you're overrating him a tad bit Bonn. He's a good player, but lets see how he fits in Browns system. In Phoenix, he basically ran down the court and stopped behind the 3 point line most of the time, and waited for someone to kick the ball to him. None of that is happening under Larry Brown. Like I said, if anyone is likely to go, it's Q, and Larry would not have allowed Isiah to do that Q for Kurt Thomas trade. That is a promise.

LOL PHO had to take a loss somewhere. Isiah got us the better of the deal. I'll be damned if I even fix my mouth to say "oh, that's too bad for Phoenix". The rest of the league had a good time laughing at the deals the Knicks made over the years that left us screwed. The time starts now where deals start leaning in our favor.

Excellent move for Isiah. He's going to keep us moving in the righ direction. Keep up the good work, Zeke!

KNICKS, baby! To hell with the rest of 'em!

[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 08/01/2005 19:47:16]

Posted by purple012870:

It just occurred to me...Chad Ford & Briggs are the same guy. Ever notice how they're never online at the same time? Thier (his) rule is "by definition, every knicks tranaction is a bad one". The roster spot that was Shandon Anderson's is now Q's. Bad move. What used to be Charlie Ward is now Stephon Marbury. Terrible. Transitioning from Michael Doleac to Channing Frye. The worst!!!! And then to take a step back by hiring Larry Brown when we could have re-hired Lenny Wilkins. Geez....when is Isaih going to get a clue????

LOL! I was wondering why they were never online at the same time!

....so much for your sense of humor

Q on the otherhand does not play disciplined BB. His BB IQ is not high. He may improve after playing for Brown, but as long as we have Marbury and Craw on this team, I'd take Raja who can fit beautifully as backup SG NOW.

Posted by Bonn1997:

12 PPG, 3 RPG, 1 APG as a starter on a lottery team? Bells' defense would have to be better than Ron Artests' to make up for those #s.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08/01/2005 22:08:03]

That's what team ball is all about, isn't it? We don't need a star player who chucks up shots after shots with low shooting % and doesn't play defense. He was playing with Kirilenko, Boozer, Okur, Griecek.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by OAK:

Posted by Bonn1997:

12 PPG, 3 RPG, 1 APG as a starter on a lottery team? Bells' defense would have to be better than Ron Artests' to make up for those #s.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08/01/2005 22:08:03]

That's what team ball is all about, isn't it? We don't need a star player who chucks up shots after shots with low shooting % and doesn't play defense. He was playing with Kirilenko, Boozer, Okur, Griecek.

team ball is about bad scoring, bad rebound, and bad passing on a bad team?

Id bet a few farthings that if Larry brown had the choice between Raja and Q it would be a no brainer. Ill take Raja's tough defense, 10 points and 45% shooting off the bench rather than Qs whatever flamboyance you call it.