Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Oh btw, Hell no to Hill.
I guess DJ needs to update the No Thanks Club

not even for only 2yrs? if you think we should just let TT's contract expire than I could definitely accept not trading for him for Hill. But if you're holding out hope that TT will get us Elton Brand or someone like that than I say trade for Hill if you can then either let his contract expire next year or hope some good players will be available. And I guarantee there will be more good players next year than this year. Unless you consider Steven Francis a good player to use expiring contracts on

Why would the Knicks get Steve Francis?

Posted by gunsnewing:


because he is young, athletic, versatile and the combo guard Isiah is so dearly in love with and because he will likely be the only one available for our expiring contracts this year and we'll make the trade just for the sake of making a splash

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:


because he is young, athletic, versatile and the combo guard Isiah is so dearly in love with and because he will likely be the only one available for our expiring contracts this year and we'll make the trade just for the sake of making a splash

I would sincerely hope not when the Knicks already have Steph, Craw and Nate on the roster. I know what your saying though with the way Isiah likes these types of guys, I personally think he's got as many as the roster as he can afford to have and that the only way Francis comes aboard is if Stephon is gone.

Posted by tomverve:

This really isn't a bad idea. The only way it doesn't work is if we can get something better than Hill in a trade for TT, which is no guarantee. Hill obviously has injury risks, but so what? This is TT's expiring contract we're talking about. If Hill is injured for the 06/07 season, that amounts to the same roster situation as if we let TT walk. There are no cap implications since we'll be way over in 06/07 regardless.

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by tomverve:

Actually, I might have to say this trade would be a no-brainer. It essentially amounts to trading Tim Thomas for a better player, and delaying the option to trade the max expiring contract by a year. Whatever's TT's expiring could fetch this season, Penny's could likely also fetch. Then even if Hill has his ankle amputated during 06/07, he can be used in a trade as an expiring contract or allowed to come off the books. What's not to like?

Orlando could conceivably be interested if they have their eyes on some free agents for next summer. Assuming they don't resign any of their contract year players from this season, they'd be at $47M next summer. By trading Hill for Thomas and letting TT expire they could drop down to $34M (actually, $34M plus Dooling's contract) and remake their roster by signing a group of impact FAs, or go after a max guy.

and we'll have $47mil in expiring contracts next year with Hill, H20 & Taylor and there should be better players available then. I just don't see anyone significant becoming available this year at the deadline but we still have Penny just incase.

We get to use Grant's services for 2yrs and maximize the effectiveness of Marbury in his prime with Brown coaching and who knows maybe he plays like the Grant Hill of old and we want to resign him. I mean he did average 18pts on 51% shooting his first time back in a long time.



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 07/29/2005 17:26:14]