NOW who's being C to the ocky.

Posted by bobs3304:

NOW who's being C to the ocky.

that's a good way to get that word in since it always gets bleeped otherwise.

boobs, I was just answering in the tone I was addressed.

Posted by bobs3304:

Billups was always thought of as an average defender BEFORE Brown. I admit I don't know about Hughes or Rip as much, but from what I've read, etc. they were slightly less than average defenders. I don't even think you can consider Crawford THAT.

But I agree. Let Brown do his thing, and then evaluate. I'm just saying what Larry did today - let the players do what they do best. Crawford is at his best when he's distributing the ball, and the same can be said about Marbury as he's breaking down defenses and kicking out. How can you have both in the backcourt then at the same time????

The problem I see with keeping Crawford is Nate might be a better player than him and probably better as a 'pg' than Craw- so if you're back court is Q & Marbs, and you want a 3rd guard off the bench, it might be Nate.

Crawford and Marbs played together last year- I don't think they were the reason we had a bad record.

A lot of Craw's chucks came, imho, because of a lack of coaching- that there wasn't a 'game plan' that utilized talents.

I mean, you can tell a player, here's the plays were going to run- I think that's what we had last year- or you can tell them, here is what we're trying to do, this is our philosohpy, so when you see this, do this or that, etc.

Posted by bobs3304:

No, I understand what you're saying. Crawford has talent for sure, but the question you have to ask yourself is does he fit in on THIS team? Brown is gonna be running a no-nonsense, defensive-oriented, strict, fundamentally-sound team. Crawford, even with guidance, just doesn't fit in. Granted, Marbury isn't much better, but no reason to keep Crawford just b/c he isn't the only "problem".

Pieces I feel are expendable - Penny, Timmy, Crawford, Sweetney, Taylor.

Now, I like Sweets, but all I'm saying is that he is in fact tradeable. Same goes for Crawford. Taylor was Isiah's mistake and he'll have to deal with that. Timmy and/or Penny are goners for sure.

Thats very true. The one constant that you can look at throughout Larry Browns coaching career is that all of the teams he's coached are just waht you said no-nonsense, defensive-oriented, strict, and fundamentally-sound. I doubt Larry is going to change his tune just becuase he's coaching in dreamland and that he's to want guys like Tim Thomas and Mo Taylor gone. The only thing is, as much as we rip on Penny, I think he would work really really well in a Larry Brown style team. He has good instincts and plays very well in the team style offense.
I know I know, his contract sucks and yeah I want him out of here but I can see Larry putting him in the rotation for the reason I mentioned.

Oh yeah Bob... it was me who said you were c-o-c-k-y, not Fish It wasn't a diss, it's just you seem alot different in the way your posting from when u signed up 2 weeks ago, a little arrogant. I enjoy reading your posts becuase you make excellent points and you back them all up very well, dont ruin those posts with arrogance, you don't need too.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07/28/2005 16:21:44]

Posted by bobs3304:

^ well then.....holla to that.


- chinese face.

hahahaha. Thats even more classic then Nalods most recent Dido thread.

Honestly, what is that gray face supposed to be showing?

What emotion is that? lol

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07/28/2005 16:36:00]

Haha, I think that is the only explanation. Nearly all of Asia is now offended but oh well.

Posted by bobs3304:

No they weren't buddy.

Billups was always known as an average defender at the worst.
Rip was always tenacious on D, even if he was slightly less than average.
Hughes? I'm assuming you mean Larry Hughes, which has nothing to do with the Pistons. Larry averaged 3 steals a game last season. He's the same age as Crawford. Umm, point made.

actually I think Huges is a year older than crawford, and steals are overrated, a lot of times guys who get steals gamble a lot but Hughes was never known as a good defender,especially in philly and GS. RIP tenacious on D? are you telling me he was the defensive player he is now back in the days of the wizzards? I don't buy that at all... Billups was known for being a bust as a lottery pick until his days with detroit, no one was singing his praises about defense before now...