Posted by simrud:

Who knows what will happen then, but I dout we are ever gettin under the cap, IT has repetedly said that he does not want to be under the cap, and the Sixers if they keep spending like this will most likley retain Iguadola by giving him the max lol.

You never know what IT is really plannin thou since he has not said a word of truth in his conferences yet.

Gotta get the Zeke dig in there...nice...very suddle....

However....what would a team's payroll be with 15 max contracts?

Note: This is not an invitation to take a dig at our payroll...

Posted by kam77:

Don't underestimate a young guy who has shown the ability to be a double-double guy with 2+ blocks per game. He has the upside, has the skills, and is almost 10 yrs younger than Erick Dampier who was awarded a similar deal last year. I was kinda hoping the sixers would let him go to the Hawks since we can deal with the Hawks easier than we can the Sixers. Oh well. Maybe FRYE can be the next Dalembert. That's a BIG maybe.

I hope not. Dalembert is a career underachiever thrust far. You make it sounds like he is some rookie. The guy is 24 yrs old, going into his fourth year. His career average is 6ppg and 7rpg. If Frye averages that by year three I think most people on this forum and others would call him a bust. Funny how perception is.

so, let me get this straight, 6ppg and 7rpg, $10 mill a year?

James may be the STEAL of the off season.

time to start backing off JJ as a HORRIBLE signing and realize it was a perfect affordable deal for the knicks that fills a need and makes us a better team.

Chumps.

Posted by diderotn:

I am very happy for Dalembert. As long as we are not the one paying his contract, it is all good. Besides, who are we to complain when Dolan paid a one dimensional Houston $20 millions per year

I agree. I am not the biggest Houston fan out there but I will admit that the guy average at least 18ppg as a Knick and was surely capable of averaging more than that. Dalembert is averaging 6ppg and 6rpg at the age of 24, where post players are suppose to do much more especially a guy without an outside shot. I mean I don't expect him to become more athlethic at age 28 than he is now. I hope Mo is working on a perimeter game for the young man. The Knicks better be careful because Ariza put out similar numbers with limited playing time. I can't imagine what he and his agent would want after two more seasons of the same.

if you think Dalembert is a career under achiever you dont watch the 76rs and you dont know about Dalembert. He didnt play organized ball until very late. He was nothing more than a hustle player in SH who got drafted late in round 1 on potential and size. He worked very hard and played very hard. He was doing great and poised for a break out season before Jim OBrien came in and phased him out in favor of the more veteran Mark Jackson. Dalembert finished that season averaging 12 points, 12 boards and 4.5 blocks in his last 15 games. You look at what he did in the playoffs last year and you saw the player ready to breakout that you saw a year ago.

Dalembert is a selft made guy from hard work and hustle. Underachiever? Please... save that label for Mo T or Tim Thomas. Dalembert and his contract will be a steal in 2 years. There's a reason Phili would have matched any offer. Guys with his size, work ethic and heart dont come along often. The skills are growing every year.

Posted by fishmike:

if you think Dalembert is a career under achiever you dont watch the 76rs and you dont know about Dalembert. He didnt play organized ball until very late. He was nothing more than a hustle player in SH who got drafted late in round 1 on potential and size. He worked very hard and played very hard. He was doing great and poised for a break out season before Jim OBrien came in and phased him out in favor of the more veteran Mark Jackson. Dalembert finished that season averaging 12 points, 12 boards and 4.5 blocks in his last 15 games. You look at what he did in the playoffs last year and you saw the player ready to breakout that you saw a year ago.

Dalembert is a selft made guy from hard work and hustle. Underachiever? Please... save that label for Mo T or Tim Thomas. Dalembert and his contract will be a steal in 2 years. There's a reason Phili would have matched any offer. Guys with his size, work ethic and heart dont come along often. The skills are growing every year.

I think the issue bigpimpin mentioned is very valid, I don't think he said Dalembert wasn't a good player but for a 7 footer to pay that much money and not get a post game, is it worth it? I find it odd also that bigmen can't play with their backs to the basket get that kind of jack. Right now Dalembert is really a hustle player, no better than Ben wallace and really not better than chandler who is a better rebounder and defensive player. I understand taht he is improving his game, but not in the areas where guys who get that kind of money excell at... Can you run a offense through Dalmebert? No way, are there guys in the league who can get you hustle points, rebounds and blocks? of course, are they getting 80 mil contracts? NO way.... We are quick to call our guys overpaid, Hell I am going to say it right now, DAlembert is way overpaid.... sorry...

Posted by fishmike:

if you think Dalembert is a career under achiever you dont watch the 76rs and you dont know about Dalembert. He didnt play organized ball until very late. He was nothing more than a hustle player in SH who got drafted late in round 1 on potential and size. He worked very hard and played very hard. He was doing great and poised for a break out season before Jim OBrien came in and phased him out in favor of the more veteran Mark Jackson. Dalembert finished that season averaging 12 points, 12 boards and 4.5 blocks in his last 15 games. You look at what he did in the playoffs last year and you saw the player ready to breakout that you saw a year ago.

Dalembert is a selft made guy from hard work and hustle. Underachiever? Please... save that label for Mo T or Tim Thomas. Dalembert and his contract will be a steal in 2 years. There's a reason Phili would have matched any offer. Guys with his size, work ethic and heart dont come along often. The skills are growing every year.

Sorry Fish, I did watch alot of the Sixers last year. Thanks to NBA League Pass (no plug but please throw endorsements my way). And all this talk that O'Brien held him back is a a bunch of crap. I am glad that he pick up his play the last 15 games. Oh btw, so did Crawford where is the all the applause for him. Jackson out hustle Dalembert. You think that O'Brien just didn't want to play him because he had a grudge?
I hope his skill levels grow before he gets out of his athlethic prime. As far as not playing organized basketball until late. I think like half the guys coming in now make that claim. Besides, Ayers gave Dalembert every opportunity to play. His career avgerages are what they are 6ppg and 7rpg.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by fishmike:

if you think Dalembert is a career under achiever you dont watch the 76rs and you dont know about Dalembert. He didnt play organized ball until very late. He was nothing more than a hustle player in SH who got drafted late in round 1 on potential and size. He worked very hard and played very hard. He was doing great and poised for a break out season before Jim OBrien came in and phased him out in favor of the more veteran Mark Jackson. Dalembert finished that season averaging 12 points, 12 boards and 4.5 blocks in his last 15 games. You look at what he did in the playoffs last year and you saw the player ready to breakout that you saw a year ago.

Dalembert is a selft made guy from hard work and hustle. Underachiever? Please... save that label for Mo T or Tim Thomas. Dalembert and his contract will be a steal in 2 years. There's a reason Phili would have matched any offer. Guys with his size, work ethic and heart dont come along often. The skills are growing every year.

Sorry Fish, I did watch alot of the Sixers last year. Thanks to NBA League Pass (no plug but please throw endorsements my way). And all this talk that O'Brien held him back is a a bunch of crap. I am glad that he pick up his play the last 15 games. Oh btw, so did Crawford where is the all the applause for him. Jackson out hustle Dalembert. You think that O'Brien just didn't want to play him because he had a grudge?
I hope his skill levels grow before he gets out of his athlethic prime. As far as not playing organized basketball until late. I think like half the guys coming in now make that claim. Besides, Ayers gave Dalembert every opportunity to play. His career avgerages are what they are 6ppg and 7rpg.

I am also a League pass member and I saw a lot of the sixers games also. Although Marc Jackson is not a low post stud, he at least can give you some resemblance of a low post game, that is why he also played more than dalembert and on top of that, Jackson outhustled him as you put it....

yea.. kinda like Malik Rose beat out Ariza in the rotation last year.

Posted by diderotn:

Don't be surprise if it happens again this season if Brown is the coach.

Posted by fishmike:

yea.. kinda like Malik Rose beat out Ariza in the rotation last year.

yes.. and non-NY fans will say Ariza wasnt ready or Malik or JYD out hustled him. Young guys arent as comfortable as veterans. Not using Dalembert was a big factor in costing Obrien his job.

Malik is very familiar with Brown system, because Pop is a disciple of Brown. He has played in many big games, and most of all, he is a leader. he will be an instant favorite of Brown.

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by diderotn:

Don't be surprise if it happens again this season if Brown is the coach.

Posted by fishmike:

yea.. kinda like Malik Rose beat out Ariza in the rotation last year.

yes.. and non-NY fans will say Ariza wasnt ready or Malik or JYD out hustled him. Young guys arent as comfortable as veterans. Not using Dalembert was a big factor in costing Obrien his job.