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Knight
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7/21/2005  10:12 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
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Link please. I guarantee you he had AT LEAST one doctor recommend whatever rehab program he adopted.
You look for the link. I dont have the time to research a player I severly dislike. I remember reading in the newspaper that the team doctors asked him to get surgery. It was on the radio too. If you missed it, too bad. You dont have to believe me of course and I doubt you will.

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7/21/2005  10:13 PM
Posted by Knight:

I know I know, Peja sucks too and Dirk and Reggie and Michael Redd and every other great shooter who is not Bruce Bowen on defense or Lebron on offense.
Dirk can drive like a mother at 7 feet. Peja and Reggie can run without the ball. Peja is not on the same level as those guys but both of them are MUCH better than Houston. Especially Reggie and Dirk! Reggie was the best at getting open. You are only comparing their shooting touch not the rest of their games.

EDIT: Michael Redd is a 2nd option. He can also drive the ball and rebound!

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 07/21/2005 22:15:11]
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7/21/2005  10:15 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Knight:

I know I know, Peja sucks too and Dirk and Reggie and Michael Redd and every other great shooter who is not Bruce Bowen on defense or Lebron on offense.
Dirk can drive like a mother at 7 feet. Peja and Reggie can run without the ball. Peja is not on the same level as those guys but both of them are MUCH better than Houston. Especially Reggie and Dirk! Reggie was the best at getting open. You are only comparing their shooting touch not the rest of their games.

You already stated you severly dislike Houston, you don't have to say anymore, you already played your hand. Houston was a very good player, to dispute that I think is stubborness.
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7/21/2005  10:17 PM
Posted by Knight:

You already stated you severly dislike Houston, you don't have to say anymore, you already played your hand. Houston was a very good player, to dispute that I think is stubborness.
He was a good shooter, not a "very good player"! You can even ask the Allan Houston fans if they think he is capable of anchoring an offense. Stephon Marbury is a very good player, Dirk is a very good player, Duncan is a great player, Allan Houston is a decent player with a good jumpshot.
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7/21/2005  10:19 PM
Here's a quote and a couple of links.
Under Callahan's watch, Houston played in even fewer games this season (20) and was given permission to rehab his knee under the guidance of Charles Austin, an Olympic gold medalist in the high jump who doesn't have a degree in sports medicine or any formal training working with basketball players.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/313435p-268137c.html
http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/nlp/newsblaster/archives/2005-01-23-09-01-22/web/summaries/2005-01-23-09-01-22-050.html

Oh, and a more specific article about this subject:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/story/259303p-222102c.html

[Edited by - BASKETBALLJONES on 07/21/2005 22:24:34]
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7/21/2005  10:19 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Knight:

You already stated you severly dislike Houston, you don't have to say anymore, you already played your hand. Houston was a very good player, to dispute that I think is stubborness.
He was a good shooter, not a "very good player"! You can even ask the Allan Houston fans if they think he is capable of anchoring an offense. Stephon Marbury is a very good player, Dirk is a very good player, Duncan is a great player, Allan Houston is a decent player with a good jumpshot.

If H20 in his prime was only "decent" I would hate to hear what you have to say about the rest of the current Knicks roster.
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7/21/2005  10:23 PM
Posted by Knight:

If H20 in his prime was only "decent" I would hate to hear what you have to say about the rest of the current Knicks roster.
Oh yea, I hate to have to say that too! If you think anyone on the Knicks other than Stephon is a very good player, you are being very generous. I think in their prime, Ariza and Crawford have the potential to be very good players though.
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7/21/2005  10:26 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

Here's a quote and a couple of links.
Under Callahan's watch, Houston played in even fewer games this season (20) and was given permission to rehab his knee under the guidance of Charles Austin, an Olympic gold medalist in the high jump who doesn't have a degree in sports medicine or any formal training working with basketball players.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/313435p-268137c.html
http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/nlp/newsblaster/archives/2005-01-23-09-01-22/web/summaries/2005-01-23-09-01-22-050.html

Oh, and a more specific article about this subject:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/story/259303p-222102c.html

[Edited by - BASKETBALLJONES on 07/21/2005 22:24:34]

So Dr. Callahan had a say in the rehab...that's my point.

"Austin has a history of working miracles. In 1993, he needed major reconstructive knee surgery and was told that his career probably was over. Three years later, he was standing on a podium in Atlanta with a gold medal draped around his neck and listening to the national anthem."

This thread is going nowhere, everyone has already made up their mind.

[Edited by - Knight on 07/21/2005 22:29:50]
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7/21/2005  10:30 PM
Posted by Knight:

So Dr. Callahan had a say in the rehab...that's my point.
Ok man, Dr. Callahan said you can rehab with someone "who doesn't have a degree in sports medicine or any formal training working with basketball players." You point is taken. I guess he isnt a waste and can ask for permission from the people that are paying him. Doesnt change the fact that he couldnt rebound, couldnt pass, couldnt defend, couldnt drive etc. Basically, he couldnt do anything other than jumpshoot.
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7/21/2005  10:31 PM
Posted by Knight:

This thread is going nowhere, everyone has already made up their mind.
Of course man. I doubt most people a high profile issue like this one lay still without forming an opinion. That doesnt mean fans cannot discuss. You got anything to say about the greatness of Allan Houston, you say it. I guess your mind is made up too which is why you cannot be convinced otherwise.
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7/21/2005  10:32 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Knight:

So Dr. Callahan had a say in the rehab...that's my point.
Ok man, Dr. Callahan said you can rehab with someone "who doesn't have a degree in sports medicine or any formal training working with basketball players." You point is taken. I guess he isnt a waste and can ask for permission from the people that are paying him. Doesnt change the fact that he couldnt rebound, couldnt pass, couldnt defend, couldnt drive etc. Basically, he couldnt do anything other than jumpshoot.

When you say it like that I'm surprised he was even in the NBA. How do these "one tool" players make the cut? I know a guy down the street who is a great shooter, I'm surprised he hasn't scored a 20 million dollar a year contract.

[Edited by - Knight on 07/21/2005 22:34:44]
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7/21/2005  10:39 PM
Posted by Knight:

When you say it like that I'm surprised he was even in the NBA.
Come on man. You know its not a personal attack. Think about it though: This guy was unathletic. Was not versatile. He also couldnt dribble or pass very well. Those right there are bad for a guard.

He didnt play defense other than his contract year in 1999 and never rebounded. He could shoot which would've been great for a team with a center and a good PG. He would be the Glen Rice in the Kobe, Shaq triangle. He got 20 mill from Dolan after that 99 playoff run. He guarded Reggie well, and passed to Camby well. I guess Dolan thought he found a franchise player or something.
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7/21/2005  10:40 PM
Uh uh.
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7/21/2005  10:42 PM
Posted by Rich:

Uh uh.

We'll let that be the last word.
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7/21/2005  10:43 PM
Posted by Knight:
Posted by Rich:

Uh uh.

We'll let that be the last word.
Let the last words be: No, Larry wont keep Houston!
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7/21/2005  10:45 PM
I just posted the links to show that he did, in fact, rehab with a high jumper. I don't know if that's a good thing or not. Houston had one undeniably great moment, IMO, that was "The Shot" against Miami back in '99. Otherwise, he's pretty one-dimensional.
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7/21/2005  10:46 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Knight:
Posted by Rich:

Uh uh.

We'll let that be the last word.
Let the last words be: No, Larry wont keep Houston!

He won't, but Houston was an above average shooting guard.
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7/21/2005  10:46 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

Let the last words be: No, Larry won't keep Houston!

Preach!

Time to get rid of the dead weight... the Knicks are turning the page, into a WINNER.


[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 07/21/2005 22:47:52]
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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7/21/2005  10:50 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:
Posted by Silverfuel:

Let the last words be: No, Larry won't keep Houston!

Preach!

Time to get rid of the dead weight... the Knicks are turning the page, into a WINNER.


[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 07/21/2005 22:47:52]

No offense, but I'm more into SOFTCOREKNICKSFANS.
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7/21/2005  11:01 PM
Posted by Knight:
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Preach!

Time to get rid of the dead weight... the Knicks are turning the page, into a WINNER.

No offense, but I'm more into SOFTCOREKNICKSFANS.
Knicks dont need softcore fans. He can be a softcore fan with other things but the Knicks need HARDCOREKNICKSFAN's
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